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    Re: When the issue is gay marriage who are the intolerant ones?

    Quote Originally Posted by Perotista View Post
    Enjoy. I am sure once the U.S. makes gay marriage legal Webster will change their definition. But gay marriage is wholly new territory. We are talking about changing something that has remained constant for thousands of years.
    Next you'll be trying to tell me same sex sex has always been socially unacceptable.
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    Re: When the issue is gay marriage who are the intolerant ones?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    But it's through the government you wish to obtain your restrictions. So no matter what delusions you exist under, you should understand that you are the one looking to use government force to alter the natural state.
    As usual you are wrong..........I will give you and example....Prop 8 in Califfornia was approved by the people of the state............Who went to the Government to appeal it? I could go on and on.......
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    Re: When the issue is gay marriage who are the intolerant ones?

    Quote Originally Posted by AmericanWoman76 View Post
    Nope, still the Same ball park, and you're playing on the KKK team, you're in the year after the civil war ended, saying that 10 years ago, no religion endorsed interracial marriage, therefore it's immoral for every religion because a few churches say so.
    Where in the world did you get that? I never said a thing about religion endorsing interracial marriage or not. Did you read my comment? Here it is again:

    I am sure it did, but can you name another country through the two to three thousands years of history that gay marriages were legal? I can name dozens where inter-racial marriages were recognized[/U]. This is a whole brand new ball park.

    I just pointed out inter-racial marriages has been recognized all over the world. I did not say one single word about religion and you can go back through all my comments on it tonight. I said or meant gay marriage is a brand new ball park. I do not know of any country that has recognized gay marriages. I gave an example of Sparta and Alexander the Great and how they fit into homosexual relations, but no marriages.
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    Re: When the issue is gay marriage who are the intolerant ones?

    Quote Originally Posted by Perotista View Post
    Oh I am sure a lot of those marriages were the common law type. Recognized by most states. Here is a list of states and the year in which common law marriages ceased to be recognized:

    Common-law marriages can no longer be contracted in the following states, as of the dates given: Alaska (1917), Arizona (1913), California (1895), Florida (1968), Georgia (1997), Hawaii (1920), Idaho (1996), Illinois (1905), Indiana (1958), Kentucky (1852), Maine (1652, when it became part of Massachusetts; then a state, 1820), Massachusetts (1646), Michigan (1957), Minnesota (1941), Mississippi (1956), Missouri (1921), Nebraska (1923), Nevada (1943), New Mexico (1860), New Jersey (1939), New York (1933, also 1902–1908), North Dakota (1890), Ohio (1991), Oklahoma (Nov. 2010), Pennsylvania (2005), South Dakota (1959), and Wisconsin (1917).

    As for the rest of the world, French-Vietnamese marriages were very common, Alexander the Great had wives from Babylonia to Afghanistan to India. Since he was the government in the areas he conquered, I am sure he recognized his own marriages.
    If common law marriages were still recognized then many gay couples would already be "married". It's not like gay couples are something new. The only reason heterosexual couples were recognized above others was the Church and as heirs. Since the Church doesn't recognize same-sex couples and they can't have heirs, in the biological sense of the word, it was never an issue before now. However, modern law has made marriage into something much more than just children and inheritance. Take away all those common "rights" (or whatever the hell the wordsmiths want to call them) of married couples and you'll have no more problems. Just admit that a wife can't make medical decisions for her incapacitated husband. That "married" couples have no special status at tax time or retirement. The list goes on and on. Marriage has become a legal institution, now, which in itself is a change of definition from the times you're talking about.


    The rest of the world is not the issue. We already know America is socially backward compared to many other industrialized nations. As for ancient history, gay couples can't produce children and that's pretty much all that counted back then.
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    Re: When the issue is gay marriage who are the intolerant ones?

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post

    DD has a one track mind, he always uses the example of race but in all actuality its people of the opposite sex that marry.
    I don't mind that, I can see where he would think it is in the same ball park. But inter-racial marriage has been around probably from almost the beginning of time or at least when man first learned how to walk and left Africa. Gay marriage hasn't, at least that I know of or I haven't read anything that said it was. Many famous leaders throughout history were homosexuals, but none of them married another homosexual. At least that I heard of.

    DD is fine, no name calling. I believe the debate should continue, that gay marriages should be decided state by state since it is such a new phenomena. I have no problem with it. I just do not think it is a civil right issue, if i did I would be on their band wagon. Changing thousands of years of tradition and custom as to what is marriage is not something to just jump in head first. Now if my state of Georgia recognizes gay marriage, I am on board, if they don't, then that too as of this moment is okay with me.
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    Re: When the issue is gay marriage who are the intolerant ones?

    Quote Originally Posted by MoSurveyor View Post
    Next you'll be trying to tell me same sex sex has always been socially unacceptable.
    I never said that, in fact it probably wasn't you I responded too. I mentioned Sparta where their warriors would leave their wives, female types and have sex with other warriors. Alexander the Great had a boy lover. All of this was readily accepted by those who lived during that time. But there were no gay marriages. Instead these were love affairs between two men. This kind of stuff goes back through eons of time.

    How one leads his life in private is up to him, that is as long as he isn't harming anyone else.Government should stay out of a person's private life.
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    Re: When the issue is gay marriage who are the intolerant ones?

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    Because as a Roman Catholic I was taught that marriage is a union between a man ans a woman.
    You were also taught that nobody should ever get a divorce for any reason. Or practice birth control. Or eat meat on Friday (oh wait, I guess that's changed now).How's ALL that been working out?
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    Re: When the issue is gay marriage who are the intolerant ones?

    Quote Originally Posted by MoSurveyor View Post
    If common law marriages were still recognized then many gay couples would already be "married". It's not like gay couples are something new. The only reason heterosexual couples were recognized above others was the Church and as heirs. Since the Church doesn't recognize same-sex couples and they can't have heirs, in the biological sense of the word, it was never an issue before now. However, modern law has made marriage into something much more than just children and inheritance. Take away all those common "rights" (or whatever the hell the wordsmiths want to call them) of married couples and you'll have no more problems. Just admit that a wife can't make medical decisions for her incapacitated husband. That "married" couples have no special status at tax time or retirement. The list goes on and on. Marriage has become a legal institution, now, which in itself is a change of definition from the times you're talking about.


    The rest of the world is not the issue. We already know America is socially backward compared to many other industrialized nations. As for ancient history, gay couples can't produce children and that's pretty much all that counted back then.
    So this really has nothing to do with inter-racial marriages. Since it is the United States basically leading the way with gay marriages I wouldn't say were are that socially backward of other industrialized nations. Wills can take care of inheritance, they always have. Tax time, ah, benefits. I always find it strange these discussions always lead to benefits instead of love. If it weren't for Wilson and the income tax, FDR and SS, and on and on, we wouldn't be having this discussion, would we?
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    Re: When the issue is gay marriage who are the intolerant ones?

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    I did not even mention the Government............Its you Gays that always go to the activist judicial....I wish you would let the people decide.....
    You mean like they did in your home state?

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    Re: When the issue is gay marriage who are the intolerant ones?

    Quote Originally Posted by Perotista View Post
    I never said that, in fact it probably wasn't you I responded too. I mentioned Sparta where their warriors would leave their wives, female types and have sex with other warriors. Alexander the Great had a boy lover. All of this was readily accepted by those who lived during that time. But there were no gay marriages. Instead these were love affairs between two men. This kind of stuff goes back through eons of time.

    How one leads his life in private is up to him, that is as long as he isn't harming anyone else.Government should stay out of a person's private life.
    I agree and marriage is about as private as you can get, so much so that the law even protects spouses against the other's forced testimony. Government should never have been there in the first place and should get the hell out.
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