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    Re: When the issue is gay marriage who are the intolerant ones?

    Quote Originally Posted by Perotista View Post
    Not in the south, but elsewhere in the world, it certainly did. Here in the good old USA, mountain men married Indian women all the time. In the southwest, whites and Mexicans married. Jim Bowie was married to a Mexican gal. One of my ancestors married a Chinese woman while he worked on the rail road. Inter-racial marriage is not new to the USA or the world.
    I can see Mexicans - after all, the Catholics have ruled down there forever. But my guess is not all those "marriages" were performed in churches or recognized by any form of government, which is what we're talking about.


    But, hey, you're welcomed to link to the documentation that proves your case. I'll read anything that's reasonably acceptable.
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    Re: When the issue is gay marriage who are the intolerant ones?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dapper Andy View Post
    Isn't it liberals who support gay marriage who push inequality in the end though?

    I think if you were to poll modern Republicans they would say unanimously that tax rates, inheritance laws, etc. should all be applied equally regardless of income, occupation, gender, race, etc. It seems to me that it's mostly the people who fall into the pro-gay marriage camp who want different standards for different people but want to make sure they're in the group getting the better standard.
    can you give an example of this asssertion?

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    Re: When the issue is gay marriage who are the intolerant ones?

    Quote Originally Posted by MoSurveyor View Post
    You think Webster never changes their definitions??? For that you get 3/3!


    Webster's takes the most common usages and incorporates them into their work. As people use words differently, Webster changes the definitions. It's all based on common acceptance of meanings, not some written-in-stone dogma.
    Enjoy. I am sure once the U.S. makes gay marriage legal Webster will change their definition. But gay marriage is wholly new territory. We are talking about changing something that has remained constant for thousands of years.
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    Re: When the issue is gay marriage who are the intolerant ones?

    I'm kind of disappointed that anyone even answered this poll which turns two diverse categories of people into some vague monolithic groups of tolerance or intolerance.
    There should be Instant Runoff Voting

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    Re: When the issue is gay marriage who are the intolerant ones?

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    It did not change the definition that you posted....but it absolutely changed the definition of "marriage" by the laws on the books at the time that Loving v. Virginia was decided by the SCOTUS. Sorry...that is just the facts.

    As far a "thousands of years"...errrrrrrrrr....wrong again. What constitutes a "marriage" has changed countless times over the course of history. Nice try though.


    I am sure it did, but can you name another country through the two to three thousands years of history that gay marriages were legal? I can name dozens where inter-racial marriages were recognized. This is a whole brand new ball park.
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    Re: When the issue is gay marriage who are the intolerant ones?

    Quote Originally Posted by Perotista View Post
    I am sure it did, but can you name another country through the two to three thousands years of history that gay marriages were legal? I can name dozens where inter-racial marriages were recognized. This is a whole brand new ball park.
    Nope, still the Same ball park, and you're playing on the KKK team, you're in the year after the civil war ended, saying that 10 years ago, no religion endorsed interracial marriage, therefore it's immoral for every religion because a few churches say so.

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    Re: When the issue is gay marriage who are the intolerant ones?

    Quote Originally Posted by MoSurveyor View Post
    I can see Mexicans - after all, the Catholics have ruled down there forever. But my guess is not all those "marriages" were performed in churches or recognized by any form of government, which is what we're talking about.


    But, hey, you're welcomed to link to the documentation that proves your case. I'll read anything that's reasonably acceptable.
    Oh I am sure a lot of those marriages were the common law type. Recognized by most states. Here is a list of states and the year in which common law marriages ceased to be recognized:

    Common-law marriages can no longer be contracted in the following states, as of the dates given: Alaska (1917), Arizona (1913), California (1895), Florida (1968), Georgia (1997), Hawaii (1920), Idaho (1996), Illinois (1905), Indiana (1958), Kentucky (1852), Maine (1652, when it became part of Massachusetts; then a state, 1820), Massachusetts (1646), Michigan (1957), Minnesota (1941), Mississippi (1956), Missouri (1921), Nebraska (1923), Nevada (1943), New Mexico (1860), New Jersey (1939), New York (1933, also 1902–1908), North Dakota (1890), Ohio (1991), Oklahoma (Nov. 2010), Pennsylvania (2005), South Dakota (1959), and Wisconsin (1917).

    As for the rest of the world, French-Vietnamese marriages were very common, Alexander the Great had wives from Babylonia to Afghanistan to India. Since he was the government in the areas he conquered, I am sure he recognized his own marriages.
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    Re: When the issue is gay marriage who are the intolerant ones?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    The continued call for the exercise of government force against the individual's right to contract....yes.
    I did not even mention the Government............Its you Gays that always go to the activist judicial....I wish you would let the people decide.....
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    Re: When the issue is gay marriage who are the intolerant ones?

    Quote Originally Posted by Perotista View Post
    I am sure it did, but can you name another country through the two to three thousands years of history that gay marriages were legal? I can name dozens where inter-racial marriages were recognized. This is a whole brand new ball park.

    DD has a one track mind, he always uses the example of race but in all actuality its people of the opposite sex that marry.
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    Re: When the issue is gay marriage who are the intolerant ones?

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    I did not even mention the Government............Its you Gays that always go to the activist judicial....I wish you would let the people decide.....
    But it's through the government you wish to obtain your restrictions. So no matter what delusions you exist under, you should understand that you are the one looking to use government force to alter the natural state.
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