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    If SSM is Legalized, Should Churches be "Forced" to Perform Gay Marriages?

    Don't confuse this with a similar poll (that gave me the idea for this one). I'm not asking if you think churches will be forced to perform gay marriages, I'm asking for your honest opinion if you believe they should be forced to do it.


    By forced, I mean anything that the govt could use to penalize churches for failing to performing the ceremonies, including removing tax exempt status if they don't, etc.
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    Re: If SSM is Legalized, Should Churches be "Forced" to Perform Gay Marriages?

    If this becomes the case gays are welcome to form their own non-profit churches and perform their own weddings. Besides, you don't have to go to church to get married anyway.
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    Re: If SSM is Legalized, Should Churches be "Forced" to Perform Gay Marriages?

    No. So long as we get rid of the system that allows a marriage to be validated by a religious figure instead of a magistrate or JoP. In other words: in a SOLELY religious ceremony, a church shouldn't be forced to do anything, so long as their ceremony does not cause gross harm (i.e. human sacrifice).
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    Re: If SSM is Legalized, Should Churches be "Forced" to Perform Gay Marriages?

    I don't think it beyond belief that those on the left, that generally scream about the 'wall' between church and state would possibly consider forcing churches to do something against their religious beliefs.
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    Re: If SSM is Legalized, Should Churches be "Forced" to Perform Gay Marriages?

    Quote Originally Posted by tessaesque View Post
    No. So long as we get rid of the system that allows a marriage to be validated by a religious figure instead of a magistrate or JoP. In other words: in a SOLELY religious ceremony, a church shouldn't be forced to do anything, so long as their ceremony does not cause gross harm (i.e. human sacrifice).
    It isn't a SOLELY religious ceremony--you need a license issued by whomever issues marriage licenses in your local government--Clerk of Court for me but IDK if that is the same everywhere

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    Re: If SSM is Legalized, Should Churches be "Forced" to Perform Gay Marriages?

    Quote Originally Posted by Fisher View Post
    It isn't a SOLELY religious ceremony--you need a license issued by whomever issues marriage licenses in your local government--Clerk of Court for me but IDK if that is the same everywhere
    That's my point. Unless the church wants to abide by anti-discrimination laws (which might contradict their core beliefs), then they should forfeit their legal authority to authorize/confirm/validate a state-recognized marriage.
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    Re: If SSM is Legalized, Should Churches be "Forced" to Perform Gay Marriages?

    No.

    Separation of church and state apparently doesn't matter when screwing the church over is the proposal. A curious thing.
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    Re: If SSM is Legalized, Should Churches be "Forced" to Perform Gay Marriages?

    Nope.

    100% for gay marriages.

    100% against forcing anyone to perform the ceremony.

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    Re: If SSM is Legalized, Should Churches be "Forced" to Perform Gay Marriages?

    If it's legal to have SSM in a state then churches should not be obligated or forced to perform same sex marriages or validate them.

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    Re: If SSM is Legalized, Should Churches be "Forced" to Perform Gay Marriages?

    Quote Originally Posted by tessaesque View Post
    That's my point. Unless the church wants to abide by anti-discrimination laws (which might contradict their core beliefs), then they should forfeit their legal authority to authorize/confirm/validate a state-recognized marriage.
    It's not necessary for them to do so. The state has granted them this power so that people can get legally married in church. The church didn't empower the state, the state empowered the church. You can get married by a magistrate/justice of the peace.
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