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    Re: If SSM is Legalized, Should Churches be "Forced" to Perform Gay Marriages?

    Quote Originally Posted by wolfie View Post
    Gays have to understand that not everyone is ''OK'' with it..
    Yet the second anyone says anything negative about the religious, they go screaming and whining that they're being discriminated against.
    There is nothing demonstrably true that religion can provide the world that cannot be achieved more rationally through entirely secular means.

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    Re: If SSM is Legalized, Should Churches be "Forced" to Perform Gay Marriages?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    Yet the second anyone says anything negative about the religious, they go screaming and whining that they're being discriminated against.
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    Re: If SSM is Legalized, Should Churches be "Forced" to Perform Gay Marriages?

    Quote Originally Posted by wolfie View Post
    I love your avatar(sorry for change of subject)..but I had a pet lion once..
    My mother had a pet bobcat growing up. While I'm glad people are largely not allowed to do that these days, there are one or two big cats I'd love to have as a pet.
    There is nothing demonstrably true that religion can provide the world that cannot be achieved more rationally through entirely secular means.

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    Re: If SSM is Legalized, Should Churches be "Forced" to Perform Gay Marriages?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    My mother had a pet bobcat growing up. While I'm glad people are largely not allowed to do that these days, there are one or two big cats I'd love to have as a pet.
    I don't like domestic cats..but I bought ''Pipo'' in Spain..where they thrust chimpanzee's..pythons..and inevitably lion cubs into your arms..for that photo shot..They buy the cubs from Africa..smuggled over to Spain..they pay £25 a cub..

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    If SSM is Legalized, Should Churches be "Forced" to Perform Gay Marriages?

    Quote Originally Posted by DA60 View Post
    Nope.

    100% for gay marriages.

    100% against forcing anyone to perform the ceremony.
    Agree 100%
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    Re: If SSM is Legalized, Should Churches be "Forced" to Perform Gay Marriages?

    No but churches dont do marriages they do weddings.


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    Re: If SSM is Legalized, Should Churches be "Forced" to Perform Gay Marriages?

    Quote Originally Posted by Taylor View Post
    Really?
    Sure about that?
    Read much?
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    Re: If SSM is Legalized, Should Churches be "Forced" to Perform Gay Marriages?

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    Don't confuse this with a similar poll (that gave me the idea for this one). I'm not asking if you think churches will be forced to perform gay marriages, I'm asking for your honest opinion if you believe they should be forced to do it.


    By forced, I mean anything that the govt could use to penalize churches for failing to performing the ceremonies, including removing tax exempt status if they don't, etc.
    According to a minister I know from Canada, in order to validate marriage licenses ministers from his province are required to obtain some type of official credentialing from the provencial government. However, once granted the minister must agree to validate any marriage lisence presented without discrimination functioning as type of government officer. This does not mean they are required to be married in the church, but does mean the minister must violate their conscience and what they believe is obedience to God in exchange for the priveldge to marry their own church members in what some christians believe is a faith based ceremony.
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    Re: If SSM is Legalized, Should Churches be "Forced" to Perform Gay Marriages?

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    By forced, I mean anything that the govt could use to penalize churches for failing to performing the ceremonies, including removing tax exempt status if they don't, etc.
    Absolutely not. First off, separation of church and state. Second, churches aren't the only place where people get married.
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    Re: If SSM is Legalized, Should Churches be "Forced" to Perform Gay Marriages?

    Marriage is a legal document that awards benefits to couples that are romantically involved, but so too can civil unions.

    Marriage is a form of unification under religion and is separate from State unions, which are papers and benefits devoid of God.

    Should Christians be tolerant and equally treat those who are gay by marrying them, yes, (for it is not their place to judge) but should they be forced to do so, no.

    The State’s responsibility is to ensure equal rights are awarded to all, e.g., financial benefits, which can be done without religious marriage via State sanctioned unions, and homosexuals and heterosexuals should both have the right to enter into a union through a Judge.

    Religion will eventually grow into modernity and be more accepting, but it will be done slowly and from within the Church and its members rather than by legal obligations forced upon it by the State.

    In the mean time, it is the Priests, Ministers, Rabbis, Imams, etc to determine if they will or will not marry people under their respective religions.

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