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    Re: If SSM is Legalized, Should Churches be "Forced" to Perform Gay Marriages?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    So? They're leeches on society who ought to go get productive jobs.
    Civil servants?
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    Re: If SSM is Legalized, Should Churches be "Forced" to Perform Gay Marriages?

    Quote Originally Posted by grip View Post
    Civil servants?
    No, the clergy.
    There is nothing demonstrably true that religion can provide the world that cannot be achieved more rationally through entirely secular means.

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    Re: If SSM is Legalized, Should Churches be "Forced" to Perform Gay Marriages?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    No, the clergy.
    Because that was a perfect definition for politicians..lol

    I'm not really religious nor do I particularly think about organized religions. I think they're too much into dogma and appearance but otherwise they don't bother me.
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    Re: If SSM is Legalized, Should Churches be "Forced" to Perform Gay Marriages?

    I dont believe churchs should be forced to do anything it does not beleive in. With one exception.

    If a Church opens a reception area, public hall or even the church itself to the general public to use with its own preachers or for its own uses, the they dont get to pick and chose which individual public gets to use it. I happen to have had experience with this in the American Legion setting. We rent out the hall upstairs on days we dont use it for meetings, wedding receptions, parties of various sources. I hope I get the terminology corret but a few years ago a large group of LBST rented it. I think the old guys handled it very well, there were no heart attacks down at the bar. We also had a lingerie party one night, the womans auxillary got all worked up about that one. The board discussed it and if we start picking and choosing who uses it...well we just decided aginst it. If it is open to the public, the public can use it. If it is legal.
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    Re: If SSM is Legalized, Should Churches be "Forced" to Perform Gay Marriages?

    Quote Originally Posted by grip View Post
    Because that was a perfect definition for politicians..lol

    I'm not really religious nor do I particularly think about organized religions. I think they're too much into dogma and appearance but otherwise they don't bother me.
    Civil servants can, although certainly they do not always do so, perform a useful service. The clergy talks to imaginary friends for a living.
    There is nothing demonstrably true that religion can provide the world that cannot be achieved more rationally through entirely secular means.

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    Re: If SSM is Legalized, Should Churches be "Forced" to Perform Gay Marriages?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    Hardly. There's already a perfectly acceptable word in use, we've established that "separate but equal" is an unacceptable concept in this country, therefore they ought to use the word we already have to refer to an equivalent thing.
    What's not established is whether "separate but equal" applies here.

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    Re: If SSM is Legalized, Should Churches be "Forced" to Perform Gay Marriages?

    Quote Originally Posted by Taylor View Post
    What's not established is whether "separate but equal" applies here.
    If we're going to give gays equal rights to marry, there's no rational reason not to give them access to the same word that heterosexuals use. "Separate but equal" should never apply to anything in the United States, only true equality should.
    There is nothing demonstrably true that religion can provide the world that cannot be achieved more rationally through entirely secular means.

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    Re: If SSM is Legalized, Should Churches be "Forced" to Perform Gay Marriages?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    If we're going to give gays equal rights to marry, there's no rational reason not to give them access to the same word that heterosexuals use. "Separate but equal" should never apply to anything in the United States, only true equality should.
    And if we're not going to recognize gay relationships as marriages?

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    Re: If SSM is Legalized, Should Churches be "Forced" to Perform Gay Marriages?

    Quote Originally Posted by Taylor View Post
    And if we're not going to recognize gay relationships as marriages?
    no one can force anyone to have an opinion, what's your question?

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    Re: If SSM is Legalized, Should Churches be "Forced" to Perform Gay Marriages?

    Quote Originally Posted by AmericanWoman76 View Post
    no one can force anyone to have an opinion, what's your question?
    Sry not following you. You quoted my question.

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