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    War/military action against North Korea predictions

    Kim Jong Un has IMHO already done enough to justify a US military response. He's pointed missiles at American bases in Japan and Guam. He cut the line that allows emergency communications between North and South Korea. Last year he fired missiles at a South Korean residitial area killing innocent civilians seemingly for no other reason than to look tough/crazy. Before his rise to power his father ignored the international community and has successfully proliferated nuclear weapons, weapons Junior now possesses. Under treaty agreements, military actions against South Korea are considered attacks on the United States of America. Un has publically stated a state of war exists between North South Korea, translation: he declared war against America under US treaty obligations. The question is will he come to his senses and back up and/or will president Obama spank that A and treat North Korea as part axis of evil or ignore him? My observation is Obama talks a good game of peace and love when it comes to playing nice with homocidal maniacs but still kicks butt most of the time.

    Not sure if I should even say this but I heard on relatively good authority troops scheduled for deployment in Afghanistan have had their orders cancelled 'in case they're needed elsewhere.' A new type of naval sea to surface battle ship never used before is now parked off the coast of North Korea.
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    Re: War/military action against North Korea predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by Smeagol View Post
    Kim Jong Un has IMHO already done enough to justify a US military response. He's pointed missiles at American bases in Japan and Guam. He cut the line that allows emergency communications between North and South Korea. Last year he fired missiles at a South Korean residitiall area killing innocent civilians seemingly for no other reason than to look tough/crazy. Before his rise to power his father ignored the international community and has successfully proliferated nuclear weapons, weapons Junior now possesses. Under treaty agreements, military actions against South Korea are considered attacks on the United States of America. Un has publically stated a state of war exists between North South Korea, translation: he declared war against America under US treaty obligations. The question is will he come to his senses and back up and/or will president Obama spank that A and treat North Korea as part axis of evil or ignore him? My observation is Obama talks a good game of peace and love when it comes to playing nice with homocidal maniacs but still kicks butt most of the time.

    Not sure if I should even say this but I heard on relatively good authority troops scheduled for deployment in Afghanistan have had their orders cancelled 'in case they're needed elsewhere.' A new type of naval sea to surface battle ship never used before is now parked off the coast of North Korea.
    There's one problem with your post. There never was a peace treaty signed. Technically the U.S. has been in a state of war with North Korea since 1950. All that was agreed on was a cease fire, that's all.

    I see today (Sunday) Obama has ordered F-22's to the region.

    Lets see, F-22's, B-2 bombers and anti ballistic anti missile batteries all deployed to the region. Everyone of those weapons platforms Obama and the liberals have opposed being funded and built.

    Do you see a problem here ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by APACHERAT View Post
    There's one problem with your post. There never was a peace treaty signed. Technically the U.S. has been in a state of war with North Korea since 1950. All that was agreed on was a cease fire, that's all.

    I see today (Sunday) Obama has ordered F-22's to the region.

    Lets see, F-22's, B-2 bombers and anti ballistic anti missile batteries all deployed to the region. Everyone of those weapons platforms Obama and the liberals have opposed being funded and built.

    Do you see a problem here ?
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    Re: War/military action against North Korea predictions

    Nothing is going to happen. This is expected with new leadership in the country add that with the sanctions the DPRK is throwing a hissy fit and using rhetoric to try to get the sanctions off. Nothing will happen it will chill out in a little bit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Nothing is going to happen. This is expected with new leadership in the country add that with the sanctions the DPRK is throwing a hissy fit and using rhetoric to try to get the sanctions off. Nothing will happen it will chill out in a little bit.
    I'm hearing China, which also has new leadership, is no longer giving North Korea a wink and a nod with their craziness and are possibly pressuring them to act right, which may be fueling Un's temper tantrum. Plus, if China publicly supports Korea's reunification, they might feel they've earned America's support to reunify with Taiwan.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Smeagol View Post
    Longer learning curve for liberals?
    That's been my observation in the last forty years.

    Remember the USS Pueblo incident ?

    I'm more concerned that almost everyone in the Obama administration are considered to be second rate.

    And John Kerry, he will probably be considered to be worse than Hillary Clinton as Secretary of State. Look how Obama's foreign policy has worked out in the Middle East during the past four years.

    But I'm more concerned with how many military commanders who were warriors and actually know how to fight a real conventional war have been relieved of their commands by Obama in the past four years and were replaced with those in the military who are not considered to be warriors but "yes men" and are politically correct enough for Obama.

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    Re: War/military action against North Korea predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by APACHERAT View Post
    There's one problem with your post. There never was a peace treaty signed. Technically the U.S. has been in a state of war with North Korea since 1950. All that was agreed on was a cease fire, that's all.

    I see today (Sunday) Obama has ordered F-22's to the region.

    Lets see, F-22's, B-2 bombers and anti ballistic anti missile batteries all deployed to the region. Everyone of those weapons platforms Obama and the liberals have opposed being funded and built.

    Do you see a problem here ?
    You don't need F-22s to shoot down MiG-21s, the F-22 fighter platform was a ridiculously over budget unnecessary project that did not give the United States meaningful abilities in the air it did not already have. And when you factor in the cost you could have purchased many more fully capable and wholly sufficient F-15Es or even more drones to deliver a greater payload with just as much accuracy and safety to the pilot as a F-22.

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    Re: War/military action against North Korea predictions

    NK is not a military problem.

    it is a refugee problem.

    If Kim -Un-whatever idiot starts and loses a war in record time, the world will be left with 25,000,000 idiots that cant live or work in a modern world and
    are full of propoganda.

    THAT is the problem......

    Imagine if germany started WW2 with flint locks.......and had a medievil economy..........

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    BBC News - South Korea pledges strong response against North

    Good video from the BBC on the North/South border at Kaesong where both Koreas have Joint Economic Zone, people are still going to work and coming home in the evening without a single change to anything going on.

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    Re: War/military action against North Korea predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    You don't need F-22s to shoot down MiG-21s, the F-22 fighter platform was a ridiculously over budget unnecessary project that did not give the United States meaningful abilities in the air it did not already have. And when you factor in the cost you could have purchased many more fully capable and wholly sufficient F-15Es or even more drones to deliver a greater payload with just as much accuracy and safety to the pilot as a F-22.
    Actually the F35 is the one with the major problems and minimal gains in capability. F-22 is the premier fighter aircraft the world. Nothing matches it. It has and unmatched EW capability for a fighter. F-15's and F-16's and others are basically 1970's era airframes that have updated engines and electronics. They can get the job done but it takes more of them and their capabilities are more limited. Drones are not quite ready for CONTESTED airspace yet. In situations where airspace may be contested their electronic leashes may be cut and they are definitely vulnerable to a robust anti air defense. We don't have the drones in production for getting into contested airspace in any numbers yet. Those are mainly in the testing phase of development. Predators and the like are easy pickens in a contested environment. Unfortunately we still need piloted aircraft at this point to defeat most types of contested threats. This means those F-22's and B-2's are worth their weights in gold right now for the capabilities above and beyond anything else anybody can field and that is major advantage that translates to LESS casualties and greater chances of success.
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