View Poll Results: Is US military action against North Korea imminent?

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  • No. Kim Jong Un will calm down or Obama will ignore him.

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  • North Korea will be hit with US air, drone and missle strikes.

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  • A full land invasion of North Korea by US forces is coming soon.

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    Re: War/military action against North Korea predictions

    I'm not trying to predict what WILL happen... too many variables.

    All I'm saying is that the risk of Kim Jong Un doing something the West would consider Irrational is real, and that NK missle/nuke capabilities may be more serious that many believe due to covert military aid from other nations.

    That, and that it may not be as obvious to Un that he'd be defeated or nuked as people around here think it is.

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    Re: War/military action against North Korea predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    I'm not trying to predict what WILL happen... too many variables.

    All I'm saying is that the risk of Kim Jong Un doing something the West would consider Irrational is real, and that NK missle/nuke capabilities may be more serious that many believe due to covert military aid from other nations.

    That, and that it may not be as obvious to Un that he'd be defeated or nuked as people around here think it is.
    Heya Goshin I think some were saying that if all were laughing at him and didn't take him seriously. That Un might take that personal like and then react in some way towards South Korea.

    Here is some of what the Chinese are saying.

    Last month's announcement that the United States would strengthen its anti-missile defenses due to the North's threats also elicited only relatively mild criticism from China.

    "All these new actions from the U.S. side are not targeted at China," said Ni Lexiong, a military expert at the Shanghai University of Political Science and Law.

    Another well-connected Chinese military expert, speaking on condition of anonymity due to the sensitivity of discussing Chinese defense policy, said China believed the U.S. presence in Korea acted as a necessary restraint on troublesome Pyongyang, hence the lack of criticism from Beijing.

    Chinese internet sites are resounding with criticism not of the United States but of North Korean leader Kim Jong-un, who is derided as "Fatty Kim" or "Fatty The Third", in reference to his father and grandfather, both previous rulers of the pariah state.

    Blame is mostly being put on Kim for leading his country to disaster and the region close to war.

    "Fatty Kim, while you are playing games, your people are starving to death," wrote one user on the popular Twitter-like microblogging site Sina Weibo, blaming Kim for the chronic food insecurity that years of sanctions and economic mismanagement have bought to North Korea.

    But speaking too strongly against North Korea in China can have consequences. South Korea's Chosun Ilbo newspaper said on Monday that an editor at China's Study Times had been suspended for arguing in the Financial Times that China abandon North Korea.

    Moscow has warned that heightened military activity on the Korean Peninsula was slipping into a vicious cycle, but senior Russian Foreign Ministry official Grigory Logvinov told the RIA news agency on Saturday: "At least at this point, we see that the statements (of Washington) are rather restrained. The position of the American side is a bit reassuring".....snip~

    China's anger at North Korea overcomes worry over U.S. stealth flights


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    Re: War/military action against North Korea predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    I'm not trying to predict what WILL happen... too many variables.

    All I'm saying is that the risk of Kim Jong Un doing something the West would consider Irrational is real, and that NK missle/nuke capabilities may be more serious that many believe due to covert military aid from other nations.

    That, and that it may not be as obvious to Un that he'd be defeated or nuked as people around here think it is.
    I do think a US conventional air strike on all of Un's nuclear facilities is close to garunteed in my opinion. What he does in response and further conflict beyond that is a question mark.
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    Re: War/military action against North Korea predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by Smeagol View Post
    Kim Jong Un has IMHO already done enough to justify a US military response. He's pointed missiles at American bases in Japan and Guam. He cut the line that allows emergency communications between North and South Korea. Last year he fired missiles at a South Korean residitial area killing innocent civilians seemingly for no other reason than to look tough/crazy. Before his rise to power his father ignored the international community and has successfully proliferated nuclear weapons, weapons Junior now possesses. Under treaty agreements, military actions against South Korea are considered attacks on the United States of America. Un has publically stated a state of war exists between North South Korea, translation: he declared war against America under US treaty obligations. The question is will he come to his senses and back up and/or will president Obama spank that A and treat North Korea as part axis of evil or ignore him? My observation is Obama talks a good game of peace and love when it comes to playing nice with homocidal maniacs but still kicks butt most of the time.

    Not sure if I should even say this but I heard on relatively good authority troops scheduled for deployment in Afghanistan have had their orders cancelled 'in case they're needed elsewhere.' A new type of naval sea to surface battle ship never used before is now parked off the coast of North Korea.
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    Re: War/military action against North Korea predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    No, you shouldn't say this. Loose lips sink ships.
    True I'll do better next time. FYI: It wasn't from an official military source but a military family member.

    Since then deployment of key assets to the region have been well publicized; numerous Naval vessels, Air Force bombers, Air Force fighter jets, advanced floating radar systems. If KJU doesn't know he's about to have his butt handed him then he's not just a narcissistic and arrogant murderer, he's clinically delusional.
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    Re: War/military action against North Korea predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by WCH View Post
    Interesting. Maybe China and the US are planning some bi-lateral action. They have a new President and and economies are intertwined. Or its possible we've given the Chinese some heads up and they're placing troops on their border as a precautionary measure to keep hostilities from spilling over into their territory and/or there to deal with the refugee problem. I can't imagine Obama not doing anything wrt NK without at least consulting the Chinese and asking for their involvement at best.
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    Re: War/military action against North Korea predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by Smeagol View Post
    I'm hearing China, which also has new leadership, is no longer giving North Korea a wink and a nod with their craziness and are possibly pressuring them to act right, which may be fueling Un's temper tantrum. Plus, if China publicly supports Korea's reunification, they might feel they've earned America's support to reunify with Taiwan.
    One of my close friend who works in the NK Human Rights community says that China has started cracking down on smuggling routes which are used to bring in food and other essential black market goods to North Korea. That seems more substantive than any public sanctions.

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    Re: War/military action against North Korea predictions

    Nothing will happen like usual...North Korea is testing the new South Korean president and throwing another fit. This will not go to anything militarily
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    Re: War/military action against North Korea predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by PirateMk1 View Post
    Where the F-22 pays for itself is securing that dominance as quickly and efficiently as possible especially in a heavy SAM environment where it will really shine vs. F-15.
    It hasn't paid for crap so far. No troop in Iraq or Afghanistan benefitted from an F/A-22. No one in Libya benefitted from an F/A-22. And when it comes to North Korea we might see the same excuse given. The F/A-22 is too expensive a toy with far too many secrets to risk in combat. Even in training many of the systems are shut down. Circa 2004, the Indonesians whipped our pilots butts in a training exercise because their polits don't rely upon systems to fly their aircraft.

    But billions and billions we spend on it.

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