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    Re: Do you believe in flying saucers?

    Quote Originally Posted by APACHERAT View Post
    Remember when William Jefferson Clinton became President ? I dol.

    Clinton's first agenda wasn't Hillary Health Care or to start over downsizing the U.S. military which would result in a five year long war in Iraq but UFO's.

    That many Presidents / Cn'C are kept in a need to know position by the CIA or the military. The current Cn'C is a perfect example, if a military flag officer or general were to tell Obama the truth and that truth isn't politicaly correct he will be relieved from his command or forced in to early retirement.

    Those of us who remember when Clinton became POTUS was that he wanted to know if there were ET's or if the Romulans have taken control of the GOP ?

    That question was one of President Clinton's first orders as Cn'C. As we all witness, Clinton never got back to the American people.

    Did the Clinton Administration Uncover Any UFO Mysteries?
    The president may have obtained information about the 1956 Jasper Incident, the subject of "The Top Secret UFO Project,"


    >" (Press Release) - Oct. 21, 2006 - William Jefferson Clinton had always been curious about the existence of UFOs. After taking office in January of 1993, he was suddenly in a position to gather information that most could not. The president was determined to find out if tales of flying saucers were simply hogwash, or if the government did, indeed, have many secrets hidden away somewhere in a well-secured vault. One of the UFO stories that the government covered up was the Jasper Incident of 1956, or so the legend goes in "The Top Secret UFO Project," "<

    In respect olf POTUS Clinton. no link.
    I actually have a theory about this kind of thing. It doesn't involve the actions of actual aliens, but it is a conspiracy theory that I subscribe to.

    Basically, the government's doing with aliens what they did with 9/11 in that one episode of South Park. During the Cold War the government was testing a lot of aerospace technology that they wanted to keep classified. One of the things they did to make it look secret was give a few winks and nods that they were covering up actual aliens. This probably would have never fooled the Soviets and was probably mostly for the benefit of keeping it out of the mind of most Americans, but it wouldn't require a great deal of resources. They probably figured that they just had to drop the idea, and it would spread so fast in the public consciousness that most people who would care about government spy planes would forget about them and focus on aliens.

    After the Roswell Incident, I do remember reading about the military saying that it was a flying saucer the day after it happened, and then they quickly retracted the statement. It turns out that it was a type of spy balloon, and without any real evidence, I think that the first statement was made just because of how ridiculous the original statement would have been without hard evidence. Later in the 1950's, the Air Force created Project Blue Book, a research group devoted to investigating and debunking UFO sightings. The group was pretty heavily criticized for shoddy research. This can largely be chalked up to the fact that the Air Force didn't really give much of a crap about UFO's and barely funded them, but it did provide the side benefit of fueling conspiracy theories. Now, obviously I don't really have any hard evidence for this, and conspiracy theorists don't seem like a huge threat to the government now, but our government has certainly funded resources for more innane things and gone after non-threatening groups. Many military officials might have felt that public attention was inevitably going to focus on any new technology that they tried to build, and that this would be a cheap, easy way of diverting public attention.

    Factsheets : Unidentified Flying Objects and Air Force Project Blue Book

    Project Blue Book - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Roswell UFO incident - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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    Re: Do you believe in flying saucers?

    ...and you know this to be a fact how? There are an estimated 300 billion stars in our relatively minor galaxy. There are an estimated 17 billion "earth size" planets. Pirate MK and Specklebang claim to be from Mars, which is just a short ride away - are you calling us liars?
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    We are alone in this PART of the universe though. There is nothing for 100's of light years around.

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    Re: Do you believe in flying saucers?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Chuckles View Post
    I'm not exactly sold on the idea, but it seems our knowledge of the universe is still rather a bit limited to support the above claim

    PS going back and reading the OP I'm figuring you're talking about 'flying saucers" in particular?
    Our knowledge may be limited, but that doesn't mean they exist. To date, I've read zero journals regarding flying saucer verification - then again, not like I really look for them. However, I do read physics journals somewhat regularly and haven't read anything about them.
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    Re: Do you believe in flying saucers?

    [QUOTE=zgoldsmith23;1061632446]Our knowledge may be limited, but that doesn't mean they exist. To date, I've read zero journals regarding flying saucer verificatio

    I don't believe in flying saucers..

    I was lying on my back in the woods staring at the sky..

    A bright light darted across the sky....then stopped...hovered..and took off again at an amazing rate..

    was it a flying saucer...naah!!

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    Re: Do you believe in flying saucers?

    Quote Originally Posted by zgoldsmith23 View Post
    Our knowledge may be limited, but that doesn't mean they exist.
    Of course, but if we have a very limited knowledge on a subject, we can hardly make a reasonable declaration, either way.

    Quote Originally Posted by zgoldsmith23 View Post
    To date, I've read zero journals regarding flying saucer verification - then again, not like I really look for them. However, I do read physics journals somewhat regularly and haven't read anything about them.
    My post concerned ET life, in general. If your remarks concerned flying saucers in particular, then I agree

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    Re: Do you believe in flying saucers?

    I certainly do
    UFO - OVNI - UFOs In Washington D.C - 60 years ago - YouTube

    I think i might of saw one it was a strange looking thing in the sky moving up and down very weirdly.


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    Re: Do you believe in flying saucers?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Chuckles View Post
    Of course, but if we have a very limited knowledge on a subject, we can hardly make a reasonable declaration, either way.

    My post concerned ET life, in general. If your remarks concerned flying saucers in particular, then I agree
    A reasonable declaration would be that, if we don't have evidence of the flying saucers (or ET life) and claims about them have been disproven previously, they likely don't exist yet the claim is open were counter-evidence to be presented.
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    Re: Do you believe in flying saucers?

    Quote Originally Posted by zgoldsmith23 View Post
    A reasonable declaration would be that, if we don't have evidence of the flying saucers (or ET life) and claims about them have been disproven previously, they likely don't exist

    Seems like you're appealing to ignorance. Being that the amount of the universe we have explored is extremely small (the amount of potential evidence we have reviewed doesn't lend itself to a "reasonable" declaration on the matter), especially when we are talking about individual planets and possible eco-systems on those planets.

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    Re: Do you believe in flying saucers?

    I'd love to try one of those in the future. I've had some great trips before with space cakes.

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    Re: Do you believe in flying saucers?

    Yes, they are evolved humans from our own future exploring history the same as we explore history now. If the human race does not become extinct, that is inevitable.

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