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    Re: Do you believe in flying saucers?

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    Flying saucers tend to lead to a divorce.
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    Re: Do you believe in flying saucers?

    Quote Originally Posted by zgoldsmith23 View Post
    Seeing as how there's not any scientifically verified evidence of them and, almost all of the claims made about them have been disproven, no.
    The very nature of UFOs (key word: UNIDENTIFIED) implies that their nature/existence is a mystery. If you can't identify something, then proof or lack thereof doesn't even enter the picture. Now obviously many UFO sightings have been explained (or at least folks have attempted to explain them without involving paranormal phenomena), but given the sheer number of potential sightings and incidents it's rather premature to conclude that "almost all claims have been disproven."

    The best I can tell the phenomena remains a mystery. Whether or not it involves extraterrestrials is a conclusion that hasn't been made definitively and probably never will.
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    Re: Do you believe in flying saucers?

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    The very nature of UFOs (key word: UNIDENTIFIED) implies that their nature/existence is a mystery. If you can't identify something, then proof or lack thereof doesn't even enter the picture. Now obviously many UFO sightings have been explained (or at least folks have attempted to explain them without involving paranormal phenomena), but given the sheer number of potential sightings and incidents it's rather premature to conclude that "almost all claims have been disproven."

    The best I can tell the phenomena remains a mystery. Whether or not it involves extraterrestrials is a conclusion that hasn't been made definitively and probably never will.
    People used the same reasoning with Bigfoot but in the end it turned out to be a big hoax.

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    Re: Do you believe in flying saucers?

    Quote Originally Posted by polgara View Post
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    Re: Do you believe in flying saucers?

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    The very nature of UFOs (key word: UNIDENTIFIED) implies that their nature/existence is a mystery. If you can't identify something, then proof or lack thereof doesn't even enter the picture. Now obviously many UFO sightings have been explained (or at least folks have attempted to explain them without involving paranormal phenomena), but given the sheer number of potential sightings and incidents it's rather premature to conclude that "almost all claims have been disproven."

    The best I can tell the phenomena remains a mystery. Whether or not it involves extraterrestrials is a conclusion that hasn't been made definitively and probably never will.
    They are identifiable if they supposedly in existence and especially if they appear on Earth so evidence and proof are possible. You may not be able to identify the size, shape, occupants, etc. but the saucer is either there or it's not. If it is there, it's identifiable; if not, then it's not identifiable. People mislabel things constantly. These "sightings" are disproven through normal means. It's quite typical of just hearsay, as well. There's not a mystery; it's not 50-50. It's "there's no evidence for them, so it's illogical to posit them being here." A nice, big, healthy dose of skepticism might help here.

    Now, a better counterargument to my argument would've been pointing out that these are paranormal activities (not the movies, folks) and that, by definition, paranormal means that which lies outside of the current scientific realm.
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    Re: Do you believe in flying saucers?

    As in, alien spacecraft from another civilization buzzing the Earth for ****s and giggles, or experiments or observations?


    I wouldn't entirely rule it out as impossible, but there are many reasons why it is improbable... and I've yet to see really compelling evidence of same.


    So if I had to vote yes or no it would be no.... although I firmly believe there may be other sapient life on other worlds in the universe.

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    Re: Do you believe in flying saucers?

    Why not? There are billions of stars so why couldn't we have visitors from some?

    But - they probably turn right around and get out of here!
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    Re: Do you believe in flying saucers?

    I think it is statistically very likely there is life elsewhere in the universe. But I am not convinced it has "visited Earth" based on the available evidence.

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    Re: Do you believe in flying saucers?

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    What do you think?
    If you are talking about space alien craft then yes I do believe in that.That said I do not believe anyone here on earth saw one, or that aliens abducted people nor do I believe aliens are going to invade.To be able to travel all over space requires a **** load of technological advances.This includes camouflage/stealth technology which would hide the space craft from plain view. This also includes telescopes,sensors and other similar technology that would allow them to observe without actually stepping foot off their space craft or even planet. There are also billions or perhaps trillions of planets, moons and asteroids in the universe that can be terraformed or resources obtained from and the fact that earth may be totally hostile to space alien life(such as gravity,pressure, temperatures, light and so on) so an invasion is out of the question.
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