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    Re: Are public schools socialism?

    Quote Originally Posted by Rainman05 View Post
    Education is a human right.
    Education is a service.

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    Re: Are public schools socialism?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    Well, my kid is crap out of luck with trigonometry and up, so no science or research career for him.
    What you don't know how to hire a tutor? You don't know how to find or shop a PRIVATE school. You that incompetent? Really? I know VERY few people who are actually COMPLETE and utter morons. You don't strike me as one. By the way if you didn't know I bet you would LEARN. Just a hunch.
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    Re: Are public schools socialism?

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Private schools and other means of educational services provided by the market. In fact, the market can provide free education if people are willing to realize that potential. Yes, I have ideas on doing just that.
    Education is a necessity for a free people. The market would do, as they did in the past, well for the wealthy, and less so for the less wealthy.

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    Re: Are public schools socialism?

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Education is a service.
    Just to be clear, does this mean you have no problems with people being born into less, uh...marketable...communities, and thus being forced into lower path careers due to less access to education?

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    Re: Are public schools socialism?

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    Are public schools socialism?


    Well, this is just like a religious question. You can answer it so that it fits your agenda.
    If you are a con/libertarian, then yes, it's socialism.


    But it's only been socialism since the R's lost the WH

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    Re: Are public schools socialism?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    Bad management and policy are separate issues from adequate funding. No one can deny that proper facilities, number and qualification of teachers and tools require funds. You don't punish bad policy by revoking the funding, you replace the management.
    As I wrote, it's been demonstrated in schools accross the country that the issue is not funding. It has been proven in California that the issue is not funding.

    I understand that is the focus of teachers, administrators, and the Unions that control the schools, but all the evidence is in.

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    Re: Are public schools socialism?

    Quote Originally Posted by PirateMk1 View Post
    What you don't know how to hire a tutor? You don't know how to find or shop a PRIVATE school. You that incompetent? Really? I know VERY few people who are actually COMPLETE and utter morons. You don't strike me as one. By the way if you didn't know I bet you would LEARN. Just a hunch.
    There are multiple reasons why even very wealthy people with even the best access to money still send their kids to private schools, or are careful to move to communities with extremely high quality public schools.

    1)Socialization and/or potential career connections.
    2)Exposing their children to ideas they themselves might not have, and most practically:
    3)Forming a curriculum is a full time job. Overseeing the education of their child personally is time consuming and would steal time away from their own ability to make a living.
    4)I could barely get through trigonometry. Calculus was 100% out of the question.

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    Re: Are public schools socialism?

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    How would people be educated if we closed down the public schools?
    They would do it themselves or hire someone. Just like they did before. And like before the your children would reap superior benefit then they do now, because the education is tailored to them. Not to mention the parents don't have to worry about extraneous bull**** that comes with a public school education.
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    Re: Are public schools socialism?

    That be the case, and I agree that it is , WHY the federal department of education ?
    Quote Originally Posted by pinqy View Post
    Because it's a State, not Federal issue.

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    Re: Are public schools socialism?

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Education is a service.
    I think somebody didn't read his mandatory Universal Declaration of Human Rights Act. Here, let me enlighten you.

    The Universal Declaration of Human Rights

    Article 26.

    (1) Everyone has the right to education. Education shall be free, at least in the elementary and fundamental stages. Elementary education shall be compulsory. Technical and professional education shall be made generally available and higher education shall be equally accessible to all on the basis of merit.
    (2) Education shall be directed to the full development of the human personality and to the strengthening of respect for human rights and fundamental freedoms. It shall promote understanding, tolerance and friendship among all nations, racial or religious groups, and shall further the activities of the United Nations for the maintenance of peace.
    (3) Parents have a prior right to choose the kind of education that shall be given to their children.

    Got it? It's not a service. It's a right. And who must cater to the fulfillment of that right? The society. Because failure to cater to this basic human right will be the downward spiral of our society.

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