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    Re: Are public schools socialism?

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    How would people be educated if we closed down the public schools?
    You would. Duhhh. Or do you hate your children?
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    Re: Are public schools socialism?

    Quote Originally Posted by PirateMk1 View Post
    You would. Duhhh. Or do you hate your children?
    Well, my kid is crap out of luck with trigonometry and up, so no science or research career for him.

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    Re: Are public schools socialism?

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    So?? Why does something being in the public interest warrant the government being involved in that activity? Who cares if an educated population helps the country? That has nothing to do with the job of the government. That is a responsibility of people.



    It's a matter of fact. People are interested in having their children educated and go out to make that interest a reality in the market where people are employed to fill this interest these parents have. Public education doesn't even really change this, but instead provides them a place to get this interest realized where other people pay for the service and the government is in charge of the educational process.

    I'm honestly not interested in fixing a system where the government is in charge of education, sorry. Mutual benefit of the government acting does not warrant anything.
    We've been through this before, but why is military not socialism while public education is?
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    Re: Are public schools socialism?

    Quote Originally Posted by MadLib View Post
    We've been through this before, but why is military not socialism while public education is?
    "Socialism" has become a meaningless term in today's political discourse.


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    Re: Are public schools socialism?

    Education is a human right.

    Public schooling is beneficial to all and it doesn't fall on either side of the political spectrum. The reason we acknowledge we need education, in the form of public schools, is because we don't want to live a world full of idiots. Then again, the entire educational system needs to be revamped, but that doesn't mean we need to get rid of public education, it means we need to reinvent it.

    Western society championed public schools in the wake of Enlightenment and it has benefited the world greatly. You can have public and private education, both, side by side.

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    Re: Are public schools socialism?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    I think the best way to achieve this is for all schools to have equal federal funding. Tying the funding to local property taxes is a disaster (unless you're one of those lucky enough to live in a community with high property taxes).
    Now one would think your approach makes sense.

    However, in California, schools in lower income areas receive more funding than those in high income areas. The results continue to be dismal.

    It's not the money. It's the curriculum/focus, and the parents/students.

    For example, Parents are allowed to be so disconnected from their responsibilities, the Los Angeles Unified School district rewards them by providing their children with meals three times a day, 365 days of the year.

    And then there is the Teachers Union problem...

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    Re: Are public schools socialism?

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    "Socialism" has become a meaningless term in today's political discourse.
    Nothing that any president has done can be considered socialism. There is no industry today that is COMPLETELY in the hands of the government or the workers, aside from the police.
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    Re: Are public schools socialism?

    Quote Originally Posted by ocean515 View Post
    Now one would think your approach makes sense.

    However, in California, schools in lower income areas receive more funding than those in high income areas. The results continue to be dismal.

    It's not the money. It's the curriculum/focus, and the parents/students.

    For example, Parents are allowed to be so disconnected from their responsibilities, the Los Angeles Unified School district rewards them by providing their children with meals three times a day, 365 days of the year.

    And then there is the Teachers Union problem...
    Bad management and policy are separate issues from adequate funding. No one can deny that proper facilities, number and qualification of teachers and tools require funds. You don't punish bad policy by revoking the funding, you replace the management.

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    Re: Are public schools socialism?

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    How would people be educated if we closed down the public schools?
    Private schools and other means of educational services provided by the market. In fact, the market can provide free education if people are willing to realize that potential. Yes, I have ideas on doing just that.

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    Re: Are public schools socialism?

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Private schools and other means of educational services provided by the market. In fact, the market can provide free education if people are willing to realize that potential. Yes, I have ideas on doing just that.
    I'd like to hear those ideas, as well as how the market can fund schools in less marketable regions.

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