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    Re: Are public schools socialism?

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    It is a state right to educate their kids as they see fit and the residents of that state would choose how that was accomplished based on their vote for a specific program or governor whom they chose to run their state. Socialism is a top down system run by faceless bureaucrats and politicians voted in by people in far away states and cities, huge difference and there is that pesky 10th amendment thing.
    That's not what socialism is at all.

    Even on a state level it's run by faceless bureaucrats and politicians. When you get a geographically large state, it's a far away city. Look at Alaska - Minneapolis is closer to Cleveland than Juneau is to Nome. Buffalo to Albany in New York State is a pretty good hike, all the way to New York is even worse.


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    Re: Are public schools socialism?

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    Socialism or not I will gladly pay my current tax rate, hell even more, to live in an educated society.
    Are you assuming we would all be dimwits without it?

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    Re: Are public schools socialism?

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    There is no roughly about it. Government will always be the leader of the pack and will always be calling all the shots inside and outside the market of education. To call a market where competition can not exist ever and where the government is involved is shear nonsense.
    In that bolded quote I think is a problem with our educational system not only K-12, but also in college. We don't view education as something that can be used to benefit the individual and society, but rather we view it as an arm of the market and that corrupts the value of education. Rather than having us think that education is needed so that we can benefit ourselves, it has become commodified and is viewed as a means rather than an end.
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    Re: Are public schools socialism?

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    Socialism or not I will gladly pay my current tax rate, hell even more, to live in an educated society.
    I think the best way to achieve this is for all schools to have equal federal funding. Tying the funding to local property taxes is a disaster (unless you're one of those lucky enough to live in a community with high property taxes).

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    Re: Are public schools socialism?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    This would result in an institutionalized geographical gettoization of America since only the wealthiest communities could afford the best schools. Born to the wrong parents? Tough! Hope you like working in the coal plant.
    Umm...you need to look in the mirror. What you are complaining about exists in your system.

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    Re: Are public schools socialism?

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Are you assuming we would all be dimwits without it?
    I think without public schooling people would be a lot dumber than they are now, yes.

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    Re: Are public schools socialism?

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    I think without public schooling people would be a lot dumber than they are now, yes.
    I don't.

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    Re: Are public schools socialism?

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    I don't.
    How would people be educated if we closed down the public schools?

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    Re: Are public schools socialism?

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    There is no roughly about it. Government will always be the leader of the pack and will always be calling all the shots inside and outside the market of education. To call a market where competition can not exist ever and where the government is involved is shear nonsense.
    So wherever government is involved, even if there are choices, it still isn't a market? There is still competition, otherwise private schools wouldn't exist. So it is still not socialism.
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    Re: Are public schools socialism?

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    How would people be educated if we closed down the public schools?

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