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    Re: Are public schools socialism?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bori View Post
    I don't agree, but you certainly are not alone ... we're a society, a very unequal one, and we should take responsibility for educating everyone as well as possible ... in any event, if we don't, we pay for it later ... poorly educated people cost us a lot more than educating them well ...
    Ok..

    Stupid rich people = public schooling...and a great future..

    Clever poor people = state schools..McDonald's...

    What else would you like to know??

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    Re: Are public schools socialism?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bori View Post
    dear friends, I stayed on much longer than I intended ... I was in DP jail for a few days, just got out this morning and I got carried away with the freedom .. anyway, there are things about the way this Board is run that make it difficult for me to post on a regular basis, so I'll be doing most of my posting on other Boards ... but I'll check in now and then to say hello to old friends ... take care ...
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    Re: Are public schools socialism?

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    Why not allow them to have a tax credit? They save the government tens of thousands of dollars per child.

    I support education, but I think a large part of the problem is families and students and that's not necessarily something the government can fix.
    While I agree that personal responsibility is critical, a good part of the problem with families and students that you reference is rooted in the extraordinary economic and social (and political)inequality in this country, and the legacy of racism ... the government can do something about that, but instead, it has become more than ever a government of the corporations and wealthy, by the corporations and the wealthy, and (especially) for the corporations and the wealthy" ...

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    Re: Are public schools socialism?

    If education was 100% the responsibility of states each state would compete to have the best schools to entice business moving there and creating jobs for their well educated work force. Competition works.

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    Re: Are public schools socialism?

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    I can't find anywhere in the constitution where it says the government has the responsibility or the right to educate our children.
    ...Who cares?

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    Re: Are public schools socialism?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bori View Post
    dear friends, I stayed on much longer than I intended ... I was in DP jail for a few days, just got out this morning and I got carried away with the freedom .. anyway, there are things about the way this Board is run that make it difficult for me to post on a regular basis, so I'll be doing most of my posting on other Boards ... but I'll check in now and then to say hello to old friends ... take care ...
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    Re: Are public schools socialism?

    Quote Originally Posted by captainawesome View Post
    What are you mad you got picked on or something?
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    Re: Are public schools socialism?

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    I can't find anywhere in the constitution where it says the government has the responsibility or the right to educate our children. In the first place it is a huge tax burden,on average 27 cents of every tax dollar goes to K-12 public education. Talk about a huge, expensive, bloated, inefficient, corrupt bureaucracy, SHEEESH! Secondly our kids are not learning very well in these gov run schools , "Johnny can't read". I could go on all day but I'll sum it up by saying our schools have become more about liberal indoctrination than public education and IMO we need drastic changes such as a voucher system to insure we have an educated society. Our current system is broken and the more money we throw at it the worse it gets.

    "To get control of a budget, you need to know how much you make, how much you spend, and what you’re spending it on. We know that K – 12 education is the biggest single cost to state and local governments, eating up close to a third of their revenues. And yet most citizens and politicians have little or no idea how much we are spending on education at a per-pupil level.American taxpayers spend around $600 billion a year on K-12 public education. A sobering 27 cents of every tax dollar collected at the state or local level is consumed by the government-run K – 12 education system, compared to only 8 cents for Medicaid.
    In Virginia, 29 cents out of every state or local tax dollar collected is spent on public K-12 education. In the seven years between 2002 and 2009, per-pupil spending in Virginia increased 44 percent, according to state data. When we account for inflation, it’s increased a 21 percent.
    And these figures leave out a large but completely unknown amount of capital expenses and debt payments that cities and counties spend on behalf of public schools but which never make it onto the school district books or into the state’s accounting.
    Education spending is the single most serious burden on state and local budgets. And since runaway education spending is a major cause of our state and local budget problems, it’s the best place to look for serious savings as this fiscal crisis continues to unfold."


    The Real Cost of Public Education | Cato Institute


    DAMNIT, I forgot to push the create a poll button, CRAP!
    Johnny can't read? Really? Most of the members here at DP are American and went through the public education system. Looks like we've got a pretty literate group here that can not only read well, but can express themselves quite well in written English. Are we all some kind of geniuses that somehow became literate despite an awful system or did the system, despite some flaws, actually work?

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    Re: Are public schools socialism?

    I would like to know why does Obama send his kids to private school?

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    Re: Are public schools socialism?

    Quote Originally Posted by Luna Tick View Post
    Johnny can't read? Really? Most of the members here at DP are American and went through the public education system. Looks like we've got a pretty literate group here that can not only read well, but can express themselves quite well in written English. Are we all some kind of geniuses that somehow became literate despite an awful system or did the system, despite some flaws, actually work?
    "With the start of the new academic year, results from last year's ACT college admissions tests have been made public, and the results are disturbing. The incoming freshman class is woefully unprepared for college. The class of 2016, as a group, failed all four subjects the test assesses: English, math, reading, and science. According to ACT, only 25 percent of students are proficient in all four subjects. Sixty percent came up short in two of the four subject areas, while more than 25 percent failed to demonstrate proficiency in any subject at all. If the point of high school is to prepare students for college, high schools are clearly failing. Unfortunately, this doesn't stop the undereducated masses from heading off to the ivory tower each year."


    Public High Schools Are Not Doing Their Jobs - Economic Intelligence (usnews.com)

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