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    Re: Are public schools socialism?

    Quote Originally Posted by PirateMk1 View Post
    The two are NOT mutually exclusive. Most of the advanced subjects are in later years and you could hire a tutor or any other number of solutions to cover those.

    And I am going to be blunt, here. If people have children and want them to have an education, they WILL see to it one way or another. Like they do when they need to make sure their children are fed and clothed and housed. If they don't care they wont do a thing. Just like now. Most of what I see against the idea is simply a lack of will. You don't want to. There's very little in the way of children being able to get an education regardless of whether or not there are public schools. Its simply a matter of will.

    We have public schools now. My children will NEVER set foot in a public school as a student, ever.

    I could imagine a perk employers dangling, to get and KEEP good employees would be an education subsidy for their employees children or if they are large enough run their own school. I could imagine if a employer had an excellent school program they would have a very long line of people wanting to work for them.
    Employers are balking at healthcare like hell they pay for elementary school.

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    Re: Are public schools socialism?

    Quote Originally Posted by Fiddytree View Post
    I have made my peace long ago at the notion that Foucault once said: "Knowledge is power." The status and thus power of teacher is that above student, and I believe necessarily so.
    Power is the application of will and energy.
    Knowledge is the lever directing how power is applied.

    An instructor will earn their students respect if the instructor is worthy. A master has no problems earning respect, otherwise they are not masters.
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    Re: Are public schools socialism?

    Quote Originally Posted by PirateMk1 View Post
    Power is the application of will and energy.
    Knowledge is the lever directing how power is applied.

    An instructor will earn their students respect if the instructor is worthy. A master has no problems earning respect, otherwise they are not masters.
    Life isn't like the karate kid in reality.

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    Re: Are public schools socialism?

    Quote Originally Posted by captainawesome View Post
    Employers are balking at healthcare like hell they pay for elementary school.
    Excuse me? BEFORE the atrocity called OBAMAcare more than a half of US employers provided health for their employees without coercion. No laws whatsoever. What did you expect to happen when something gets shoved down their throat? They weren't going gag on it? Not, try and spit it out? More than a few employers provide help for education of their employees now. You seem to be under the impression ALL or even MOST employers are scum. Newsflash sonny boy, but your argument is garbage. You have NO idea what you talk about. I can tell from your argument you have NEVER hired anyone or ran a business were you had employees.
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    Re: Are public schools socialism?

    Quote Originally Posted by PirateMk1 View Post
    Excuse me? BEFORE the atrocity called OBAMAcare more than a half of US employers provided health for their employees without coercion. No laws whatsoever. What did you expect to happen when something gets shoved down their throat? They weren't going gag on it? Not, try and spit it out? More than a few employers provide help for education of their employees now. You seem to be under the impression ALL or even MOST employers are scum. Newsflash sonny boy, but your argument is garbage. You have NO idea what you talk about. I can tell from your argument you have NEVER hired anyone or ran a business were you had employees.
    So like you said only half provided the most common benefit of work that wasn't mandated. That being actual pay.

    Employers aren't going to start paying for education. How many provide daycare now?

    Sonny boy lol

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    Re: Are public schools socialism?

    Quote Originally Posted by captainawesome View Post
    Life isn't like the karate kid in reality.
    You mean there are people who would use power without proper knowledge to direct it? Wow! Who are they?
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    Re: Are public schools socialism?

    Quote Originally Posted by captainawesome View Post
    Life isn't like the karate kid in reality.
    Your right life is not like Karate Kid. Life is a cast iron, cold hearted, cruel bitch, that does not suffer fools gladly. She has special affinity for fools who play with fire. Respect is earned, fools are burned.
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    Re: Are public schools socialism?

    Quote Originally Posted by PirateMk1 View Post
    Your right life is not like Karate Kid. Life is a cast iron, cold hearted, cruel bitch, that does not suffer fools gladly. She has special affinity for fools who play with fire. Respect is earned, fools are burned.
    Why don't you use plain English? Do you think cryptic cliches make you seem smart or wise?

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    Re: Are public schools socialism?

    Quote Originally Posted by AreteCourage View Post
    We have a bureaucracy that makes teachers teach to a standardized test which does nothing to promote creativity or critical thinking. Students usually go through the same mundane schedule day in and day out. When they get to school around 7:30am to when they leave at around 3:00pm....it rarely changes. Same with prisons from those times....the same mundane schedule.
    Not that I agree with the approach, but many of the best performing nations on education apply the above formula in their schools and have been more than successful with it

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    Re: Are public schools socialism?

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    EXACTLY, it should be a state issue and the feds should get the hell out of the equation. Each state should handle education the way it See's fit and DC should not say a word.
    Isn't that pretty much what we have?

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