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    Re: Are public schools socialism?

    The only thing that needs to happen to the Department of Education is a movement to improve it.
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    Re: Are public schools socialism?

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    I'm not entirely sure how a business model that take no money by the customer upfront is going to fix anything by itself alone. It's simply another way to provide education to the population.
    Henrin: People! Lend me your ears! I can solve our education problem!
    People: How?
    Henrin: I can't tell you!

    Seriously, thanks for your contribution in this thread.

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    Re: Are public schools socialism?

    Quote Originally Posted by ocean515 View Post
    We can agree that adequate instruction and facilities require adequate funding. In fact, that really is a given, isn't it?

    Obviously, my point is that this level has been achieved in what I believe is most cases.

    Students and Parents deserve better, yet, the entrenched forces refuse to be held accoutable, the primary reason why school vouchers have been fought so hard by the left. Giving parents the freedom and right to select what is best for their children does not seem to be the aim, an amazing revelation behind the fight against such a viable solution.
    Students and parents don't deserve better. If a student doesn't succeed in our system its the student and parents fault.

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    Re: Are public schools socialism?

    Quote Originally Posted by ocean515 View Post
    We can agree that adequate instruction and facilities require adequate funding. In fact, that really is a given, isn't it?

    Obviously, my point is that this level has been achieved in what I believe is most cases.

    Students and Parents deserve better, yet, the entrenched forces refuse to be held accoutable, the primary reason why school vouchers have been fought so hard by the left. Giving parents the freedom and right to select what is best for their children does not seem to be the aim, an amazing revelation behind the fight against such a viable solution.
    Vouchers are even worse.

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    Re: Are public schools socialism?

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    I want proof of that claim.
    I want proof that it isn't true.


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    Re: Are public schools socialism?

    Was a national bank of the United States socialism? No.
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    Re: Are public schools socialism?

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    I think it depends upon how you define the word socialism. I couldn't care less how you define it, the fact is that our country would not have advanced as much as it has without public schools.
    George Washington and John Quincy Adams and a number of others argued for a National University. Raging socialists, they.
    Michael J Petrilli-"Is School Choice Enough?"-A response to the recent timidity of American conservatives toward education reform. https://nationalaffairs.com/publicat...-choice-enough

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    Re: Are public schools socialism?

    Quote Originally Posted by captainawesome View Post
    Students and parents don't deserve better. If a student doesn't succeed in our system its the student and parents fault.
    Not entirely, but I lean towards your conclusion. If the only game in town is the Union owned public school, with all the political baggage they masquerade as lesson plans attached, it can't be entirely the parents, or students fault if they don't get the education they paid for.

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    Re: Are public schools socialism?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    Vouchers are even worse.
    Of course they aren't. Which is why they are so resisted. You're fitting the narrative.

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    Re: Are public schools socialism?

    Quote Originally Posted by ocean515 View Post
    Not entirely, but I lean towards your conclusion. If the only game in town is the Union owned public school, with all the political baggage they masquerade as lesson plans attached, it can't be entirely the parents, or students fault if they don't get the education they paid for.
    Run for school board.

    Also, if your kid can't read write or do math It's your fault as a parent. Not the teachers or some union. It's called personal responsibility.

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