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Should you have to have a permit to grow your own garden at your residence?

Should you have to have a permit to grow your own garden at your residence?

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Luna Tick said:
A neighbor of a friend of mine proposed this to her city council. She wanted people to have to get a permit to grow a garden in their own yard. In order to get the permit, your immediate neighbors would have to sign off on it.
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That neighbor sounds like they have personal problem with a particular neighbor. They obviously want the right to tell that neighbor to get rid of their garden.

Instead of trying to use the local government to allow the neighbor to be a dick that anti-garden neighbor should move to a managed community or to a apartment/condo.
 
Not just no, but hell no. I refuse to live anywhere with a HOA for a reason, I don't need my city coming and telling me what to do with my own property.
 
Luna Tick said:
A neighbor of a friend of mine proposed this to her city council. She wanted people to have to get a permit to grow a garden in their own yard. In order to get the permit, your immediate neighbors would have to sign off on it.
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Hopefully everyone who disagrees with your friend's neighbor speaks out against permit idea at the city council meeting.People should remind your friend's neighbor that it is none her business what they grow in their yard.
 
PirateMk1 said:
Then the lady can piss off. What a bitch. I am doing a big garden this year. Zucchini, green beans, Tomatoes the works. County can kiss my ass.
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Yummy. Can I have some?

jamesrage said:
Hopefully everyone who disagrees with your friend's neighbor speaks out against permit idea at the city council meeting.People should remind your friend's neighbor that it is none her business what they grow in their yard.
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I agree. Fortunately, she was voted down. The scary thing is -- this lady is actually on the city council. It's in a very small rustic town in Wyoming where people like to be independent. It's not a place where there are a lot of perfectly manicured lawns that look like a photo from Better Homes and Gardens. Being a small town hasn't prevented it from having its share of political fighting.

Here's another thing that happened there. A man was running a firewood business out of his home. Foolishly, he used a chainsaw at all hours of the day and into the night up till 11:30 PM. Then he was shocked that his neighbors had a problem with that. They made him stop via a zoning restriction that says you can't run a business out of your home. However, he retaliated. He knew that one of his neighbors (whom he didn't like) was writing a book. He filed a motion to forbid him from working on his book in his home because that supposedly violated that "no businesses out of your home" clause. People like that I just want to slap. "Hey, stupid, your chainsaw's going to drive your neighbors nuts. A person typing on a computer won't."
 
I really don't understand some people and permits. I was rebuilding my deck last summer and some douchebag neighbor came around wondering if i had a permit. Just **** off. Who cares if I have permit or not?
 
Luna Tick said:
I agree. Fortunately, she was voted down. The scary thing is -- this lady is actually on the city council. It's in a very small rustic town in Wyoming where people like to be independent. It's not a place where there are a lot of perfectly manicured lawns that look like a photo from Better Homes and Gardens. Being a small town hasn't prevented it from having its share of political fighting.

Here's another thing that happened there. A man was running a firewood business out of his home. Foolishly, he used a chainsaw at all hours of the day and into the night up till 11:30 PM. Then he was shocked that his neighbors had a problem with that. They made him stop via a zoning restriction that says you can't run a business out of your home. However, he retaliated. He knew that one of his neighbors (whom he didn't like) was writing a book. He filed a motion to forbid him from working on his book in his home because that supposedly violated that "no businesses out of your home" clause. People like that I just want to slap. "Hey, stupid, your chainsaw's going to drive your neighbors nuts. A person typing on a computer won't."
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I have been up against the exact same bylaw where I live in Canada - about 25 years ago. I had been working on cars in my home shop forever, but we started to build airboat engines, and they were just too obvious and visible - on top of that, the town manager lived just down the alley and would walk by the shop every day. Soon, I was being given an order by council to stop running the business, but my response was to go around to EACH councillor's home and find what illegal things and activities were in THEIR yard. Funny thing: they didn't go through with it and I just kept on as per usual (although the business long ago outgrew my back yard shop).

In WY - where my US office is - we were in the country and there WERE no building permits or such nonsense. Just as it should be. Surprised to hear that is where this particular silliness is happening.
 
Luna Tick said:
Yummy. Can I have some?



I agree. Fortunately, she was voted down. The scary thing is -- this lady is actually on the city council. It's in a very small rustic town in Wyoming where people like to be independent. It's not a place where there are a lot of perfectly manicured lawns that look like a photo from Better Homes and Gardens. Being a small town hasn't prevented it from having its share of political fighting.

Here's another thing that happened there. A man was running a firewood business out of his home. Foolishly, he used a chainsaw at all hours of the day and into the night up till 11:30 PM. Then he was shocked that his neighbors had a problem with that. They made him stop via a zoning restriction that says you can't run a business out of your home. However, he retaliated. He knew that one of his neighbors (whom he didn't like) was writing a book. He filed a motion to forbid him from working on his book in his home because that supposedly violated that "no businesses out of your home" clause. People like that I just want to slap. "Hey, stupid, your chainsaw's going to drive your neighbors nuts. A person typing on a computer won't."
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Instead of a blanket zoning restriction the council should have just asked the guy to turn the chainsaw off at 6pm or so. He can legally run his chainsaw even with the restriction. Sounds like they didn't even have the guts to go to the guy first. Theres more to the story obviously but still I kinda wonder about government and the lack of creative thinking.
 
Luna Tick said:
A neighbor of a friend of mine proposed this to her city council. She wanted people to have to get a permit to grow a garden in their own yard. In order to get the permit, your immediate neighbors would have to sign off on it.
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Why do I have the feeling that your friends neighbor is from California? :confused:

Anyways this really doesn't surprise me any. A few years ago this lady moved to the area (and yes, she was from california) and bought about 30 acres of land in the country. Her neighbor had been living on his property for over 20 years and he had quite the assortment of vehicles in his yard (both front and back). Most of it seeable not only from the road but also from the house of the property she bought. After she moved in she proposed a law to the County Commisioners to ban all properties from having more than 2 vehicles on the entire property excluding visitors and tried to use her neighbor's land being an eye sore as an excuse for why she was proposing the law. Mind you this is a community in which 60% of the county is farmland (the rest is logging or living areas). Her proposal included banning all farm vehicles. Needless to say this woman got laughed out of the building. (though admittedly only after they took her "proposal" "seriously")
 
Cephus said:
Not just no, but hell no. I refuse to live anywhere with a HOA for a reason, I don't need my city coming and telling me what to do with my own property.
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That's the spirit !!!
I agree.....they'll have to take my hoe from my cold dead hands.
 
As usual, no vote
why?
In life, very few things are cut and dried.
In my neighborhood, I'd want very much for the neighbor to have a garden....permits be damned....and if he has a herd of cows and horses - all the better.
The problem in most housing areas is sloth, and ignorance....not goats and gardens.
 
HonestJoe said:
I'm very much a "no" on face value but I am curious as to why they think this is necessary or desirable. Do you know?

I do think you should require some kind of permit to remove a garden though. There is something of an issue in some UK towns and cities with a trend of paving over front gardens to provide off-street parking. A major problem with that is it removes a lot of natural drainage and increases the flooding in heavy rain.
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And yet another GOOD reason for zoning and permits.
Some people can be first class jerks and to have them mext door - a bummer..
 
Luna Tick said:
A neighbor of a friend of mine proposed this to her city council. She wanted people to have to get a permit to grow a garden in their own yard. In order to get the permit, your immediate neighbors would have to sign off on it.
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No way! That would totally suck!
 
Neighbors would have to sign on it? Seems like she probably has an axe to grind with someone over a garden issue.
 
Luna Tick said:
A neighbor of a friend of mine proposed this to her city council. She wanted people to have to get a permit to grow a garden in their own yard. In order to get the permit, your immediate neighbors would have to sign off on it.
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That is insane. If I want to grow a garden on my own property, the only thing that should affect it is what I have previously signed on to.Iow, if I have a HOA to answer to, which specifies that I may or may not grow specific plants on my property, then nobody else has any say. This is one of the reasons I live in the country. Too freakin many busybodies worrying about superficialities.
 
Crap, I voted wrong. Although, if we are talking "front yard", it should be illegal, no permits required.
 
If gardens are allowed in front yards, there should be notice to potential home buyers before they buy in the neighborhood. Nothing looks worse than a dying garden at the end of the season, particularly corn. Others have a right to nice front yards with flowers so they should have warning, before they move in, if their neighbor is going to plant whatever the Hell he wants the front yard. What is next, chickens? goats? Pigs?

Wait until the fertilizer sits in the sun for awhile, what a stench! Decreasing home values in that neighborhood is the price you might want to pay, others do not.

People that want attractive neighborhoods have rights also.

The backyard is a different story, do whatever you want back there, just keep it fenced off and don't play loud music. And don't even think about setting up a stand out on the street to sell your crap.
 
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The women that raised the issue should be saddled with a permit to eat.
 
PirateMk1 said:
Instead of a blanket zoning restriction the council should have just asked the guy to turn the chainsaw off at 6pm or so. He can legally run his chainsaw even with the restriction. Sounds like they didn't even have the guts to go to the guy first. Theres more to the story obviously but still I kinda wonder about government and the lack of creative thinking.
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That was my thought, as well. An ordinance limiting noise after a certain hour would have been a better approach. Could also apply to lawnmowers, leaf blowers, etc. 8pm or 9pm would be reasonable, IMO.


Luna Tick said:
I agree. Fortunately, she was voted down. The scary thing is -- this lady is actually on the city council. It's in a very small rustic town in Wyoming where people like to be independent. It's not a place where there are a lot of perfectly manicured lawns that look like a photo from Better Homes and Gardens. Being a small town hasn't prevented it from having its share of political fighting.
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Do you know her reasoning?
 
radcen said:
That was my thought, as well. An ordinance limiting noise after a certain hour would have been a better approach. Could also apply to lawnmowers, leaf blowers, etc. 8pm or 9pm would be reasonable, IMO.
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exactly what a REASONABLE person would expect.

Do you know her reasoning?
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My guess would be menopause.
 
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