View Poll Results: Could you accept no government recognized marriages as a compromise?

Voters
79. You may not vote on this poll
  • I oppose SSM but could accept no government recognized marriage as a compromise.

    6 7.59%
  • I support SSM but could accept no government reconized marriage as a compromise

    24 30.38%
  • I oppose SSM It's a function of government to recognize legitimate marriages. No compromise.

    7 8.86%
  • I support SSM. It's a function of government to recognize legitimate marriages. No compromise.

    42 53.16%
Page 45 of 51 FirstFirst ... 354344454647 ... LastLast
Results 441 to 450 of 503

Thread: Same sex marriage compromise

  1. #441
    Sage
    shrubnose's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2013
    Location
    Europe
    Last Seen
    11-29-17 @ 03:46 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Centrist
    Posts
    18,851
    Blog Entries
    2

    Re: Same sex marriage compromise

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    To be fair, the first part wasn't your words, either. They were the words of Robert Green Ingersoll.


    Correct.

  2. #442
    Banned
    Join Date
    Mar 2010
    Last Seen
    07-19-17 @ 03:51 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Libertarian
    Posts
    60,458

    Re: Same sex marriage compromise

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    Less than 10% of SS going out is to spouses and in order for a person to get spousal SS they must give up their own entitlement. While SS may need to be changed, it is not really significant in anyway to the issue of same sex marriage because any paid to same sex spouses would be so small it is easily made up for by other considerations such as less people on Medicaid/Medicare due to being on a spouse's private insurance.
    Marriage rates are falling right off the charts with more and more people deciding to not get marriage and while legalizing gay marriage will raise the rates some most gay individuals to my understanding aren't interested in marriage either. In fact, this entire debate coming up now is just weird if you really think about it. We are as a society are growing out of favor with the idea of marriage and at the same time trying to invite another group to the party. It kind of reminds me of those people that show up to a party that is dieing down and half of the people already left.

  3. #443
    Sage
    shrubnose's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2013
    Location
    Europe
    Last Seen
    11-29-17 @ 03:46 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Centrist
    Posts
    18,851
    Blog Entries
    2

    Re: Same sex marriage compromise

    Quote Originally Posted by maquiscat View Post
    Therefore, you need to come up with a compelling argument as to why is it not a property's owner's right to run a business and deny whoever they wish access to the business other than it's the law.


    Congress passed a law, the Supreme Court approves of it, and that's good enough for me.

    If you want to find an argument more compelling than combating racism, get after it.

  4. #444
    Sage
    roguenuke's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2007
    Location
    Raleigh, NC
    Last Seen
    05-17-17 @ 05:55 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Moderate
    Posts
    28,935

    Re: Same sex marriage compromise

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Marriage rates are falling right off the charts with more and more people deciding to not get marriage and while legalizing gay marriage will raise the rates some most gay individuals to my understanding aren't interested in marriage either. In fact, this entire debate coming up now is just weird if you really think about it. We are as a society are growing out of favor with the idea of marriage and at the same time trying to invite another group to the party. It kind of reminds me of those people that show up to a party that is dieing down and half of the people already left.
    Which has what to do with spousal SS? In fact, divorce and remarriage has a bigger, more negative affect on spousal SS than allowing same sex marriage.

    Plus, why do you care? If fewer people are getting married, then that is less people you have to shell out that little extra SS money for as a spouse who made less than 1/2 of what their spouse made so they qualify for spousal SS.
    "A woman is like a teabag, you never know how strong she is until she gets in hot water." - Eleanor Roosevelt

    Keep your religion out of other people's marriages.

  5. #445
    Sage
    shrubnose's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2013
    Location
    Europe
    Last Seen
    11-29-17 @ 03:46 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Centrist
    Posts
    18,851
    Blog Entries
    2

    Re: Same sex marriage compromise

    Quote Originally Posted by maquiscat View Post
    Therefore, you need to come up with a compelling argument as to why is it not a property's owner's right to run a business and deny whoever they wish access to the business other than it's the law.



    Here's an idea: Open up a public restaurant and put a sign on the door saying: NO (Pick your least favorite ethnic or religious group.) ALLOWED, and you will learn some very compelling reasons to obey the 1964 Civil Rights Act.

    Try it and tell us how it works out.

  6. #446
    Banned
    Join Date
    Mar 2010
    Last Seen
    07-19-17 @ 03:51 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Libertarian
    Posts
    60,458

    Re: Same sex marriage compromise

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    Which has what to do with spousal SS? In fact, divorce and remarriage has a bigger, more negative affect on spousal SS than allowing same sex marriage.

    Plus, why do you care? If fewer people are getting married, then that is less people you have to shell out that little extra SS money for as a spouse who made less than 1/2 of what their spouse made so they qualify for spousal SS.
    With marriage falling off and with most gay individuals also not interested in marriage assuming the trend in interest continues to go down towards marriage this line of argument will over time mean less and less towards SS.

  7. #447
    Banned
    Join Date
    Mar 2010
    Last Seen
    07-19-17 @ 03:51 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Libertarian
    Posts
    60,458

    Re: Same sex marriage compromise

    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    Congress passed a law, the Supreme Court approves of it, and that's good enough for me.

    If you want to find an argument more compelling than combating racism, get after it.
    It's one thing to protect peoples rights, but this idea that you combat social problems like racism by abridging the rights of people is not acceptable. I'm sorry, but who ever said people had to accept you into their property? Well? Who?

  8. #448
    Banned
    Join Date
    Mar 2013
    Last Seen
    07-16-13 @ 12:38 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Independent
    Posts
    2,568

    Re: Same sex marriage compromise

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    It's one thing to protect peoples rights, but this idea that you combat social problems like racism by abridging the rights of people is not acceptable. I'm sorry, but who ever said people had to accept you into their property? Well? Who?
    You sure are a one trick pony in favor of discrimination.

  9. #449
    Sage
    shrubnose's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2013
    Location
    Europe
    Last Seen
    11-29-17 @ 03:46 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Centrist
    Posts
    18,851
    Blog Entries
    2

    Re: Same sex marriage compromise

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    It's one thing to protect peoples rights, but this idea that you combat social problems like racism by abridging the rights of people is not acceptable. I'm sorry, but who ever said people had to accept you into their property? Well? Who?


    The U.S. Congress and the Supreme Court. Don't like the law? Try breaking it and see how that works out.

    You are way out of touch with the vast majority of Americans. I suggest that you adjust your attitude.

    I have zero sympathy for you and anyone who 'thinks' like you.

  10. #450
    Sage
    shrubnose's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2013
    Location
    Europe
    Last Seen
    11-29-17 @ 03:46 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Centrist
    Posts
    18,851
    Blog Entries
    2

    Re: Same sex marriage compromise

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    It's one thing to protect peoples rights, but this idea that you combat social problems like racism by abridging the rights of people is not acceptable. I'm sorry, but who ever said people had to accept you into their property? Well? Who?




    It might have been this guy:

    Same sex marriage compromise-jesus-christ-jesus-jpg

    Do you believe that Jesus Christ would approve of these signs:

    Same sex marriage compromise-no-colored-jpgSame sex marriage compromise-hate-jpgSame sex marriage compromise-signs-jpg


    Think about it.

Page 45 of 51 FirstFirst ... 354344454647 ... LastLast

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •