View Poll Results: Could you accept no government recognized marriages as a compromise?

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  • I oppose SSM but could accept no government recognized marriage as a compromise.

    6 7.59%
  • I support SSM but could accept no government reconized marriage as a compromise

    24 30.38%
  • I oppose SSM It's a function of government to recognize legitimate marriages. No compromise.

    7 8.86%
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Thread: Same sex marriage compromise

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    Re: Same sex marriage compromise

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Facepalm..

    I'm aware of what the law says and I'm aware that is all you guys have. You should try reading in the future.

    I'm still waiting for any defense of that part of the law. Anyone want to give it a shot?


    If you don't like the law, you have a problem.

    The law doesn't need defense, you need defense.

    You are out of touch with the vast majority of Americans who are opposed to discrimination.

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    Re: Same sex marriage compromise

    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    If you don't like the law, you have a problem.

    The law doesn't need defense, you need defense.
    The only defense I ever seen for this part of the law is based almost entirely on fairness or that it's open to the public. Barring people from entering property is PART of private property and it doesn't matter what the reason for them doing this is. No one else has a right to be on the property. Period. You can NOT trump rights with claiming it is not fair or that the business is public. It doesn't matter if its fair for them to do this. It's also not open to the public as I have said earlier, but to who owner/s want in. Nothing will change this, not even law. It's simply a matter of fact and how property functions in the real world.

    Since i just dealt with both possible angles you could take here on any possible defense I guessing you won't bother.
    Last edited by Henrin; 03-28-13 at 05:28 PM.

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    Re: Same sex marriage compromise

    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    You are out of touch with the vast majority of Americans who are opposed to discrimination.
    I'm opposed to discrimination too. Sorry, but my feelings on the matter doesn't change that the owner/s have a right to deny me access to their property.

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    Re: Same sex marriage compromise

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    The only defense I ever seen for this part of the law is based almost entirely on fairness or that it's open to the public. Barring people from entering property is PART of private property and it doesn't matter what the reason for them doing this is. No one else has a right to be on the property. Period. You can NOT trump rights with claiming it is not fair or that the business is public. It doesn't matter if its fair for them to do this. It's also not open to the public as I have said earlier, but to who owner/s want in. Nothing will change this, not even law. It's simply a matter of fact and how property functions in the real world.

    Since i just dealt with both possible angles you could take here on any possible defense I guessing you won't bother.


    The law is the law and will remain the law whether you like it or not.

    Violate it at your peril.

    You are way outside of the mainstream of American politics.

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    Re: Same sex marriage compromise

    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    The law is the law and will remain the law whether you like it or not.

    Violate it at your peril.

    You are way outside of the mainstream of American politics.
    Of course, you could always continue to offer nothing.

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    Re: Same sex marriage compromise

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    I'm opposed to discrimination too. Sorry, but my feelings on the matter doesn't change that the owner/s have a right to deny me access to their property.


    I've heard the same malarkey from other so-called libertarians, and I'm not buying it.

    When the effect of what someone does is racist, that person is a racist in my book.






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    Re: Same sex marriage compromise

    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    I've heard the same malarkey from other so-called libertarians, and I'm not buying it.

    When the effect of what someone does is racist, that person is a racist in my book.
    Then you are being illogical. If I assert that the people have a right to control access to their property in any case what so ever I am neither supporting or showing disapproval of certain motivations towards those ends. I am simply stating that they are the sole arbiter over such matters. If I tell you that by doing so they are not violating the rights of those they deny due to the fact they never had a right to enter such property to begin with, again, I am not supporting or showing disapproval of their reasons.

    You can pass whatever judgment you wish, but in the end it means nothing to me.

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    Re: Same sex marriage compromise

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    You can pass whatever judgment you wish, but in the end it means nothing to me.


    The 1964 Civil Rights Act is here to stay whether you like it or not.

    It wasn't put into law to please people like you.

    I suggest that you, Rand Paul, and a few others learn to deal with it.

    Your inane comments mean nothing to me.

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    Re: Same sex marriage compromise

    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    The 1964 Civil Rights Act is here to stay whether you like it or not.

    It wasn't put into law to please people like you.

    I suggest that you, Rand Paul, and a few others learn to deal with it.
    You can continue to ignore reason if it makes you feel better, but it surely does not make you look better. Call me racist, call my arguments inane, but until you show something of substance you will undoubtedly have nothing to stand on.

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    Re: Same sex marriage compromise

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    You can continue to ignore reason if it makes you feel better, but it surely does not make you look better. Call me racist, call my arguments inane, but until you show something of substance you will undoubtedly have nothing to stand on.


    What reason?

    You don't have any reason, all you have is your minority opinion which is worth zilch against federal law which has been tested at the U.S. Supreme Court.

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