View Poll Results: Could you accept no government recognized marriages as a compromise?

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  • I oppose SSM but could accept no government recognized marriage as a compromise.

    6 7.59%
  • I support SSM but could accept no government reconized marriage as a compromise

    24 30.38%
  • I oppose SSM It's a function of government to recognize legitimate marriages. No compromise.

    7 8.86%
  • I support SSM. It's a function of government to recognize legitimate marriages. No compromise.

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Thread: Same sex marriage compromise

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    Re: Same sex marriage compromise

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    Marriage has always been about one thing...until it wasn't. Slavery was always the norm, until it wasn't.

    Evolve.
    I'd say marriage is/was about two things" Sex when your young and putting up with the old bag when you grow old.
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    Re: Same sex marriage compromise

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    Marriage has always been about one thing...until it wasn't. Slavery was always the norm, until it wasn't. Evolve.
    No, bestowing the status of "married" on SS couples is simply dumbing-down, considering the significant differences between SS and OS couples that render inapplicable the term "marriage" to describe SS relationships.

    Indeed, that would be more like devolution!
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    Re: Same sex marriage compromise

    I have to say that if DOMA is overturned this is going to be sort of a bizarre victory. Sure, gays can get married and that's great, but what do those who opposed gay marriage lose? Nothing. It's really anticlimactic, I tell you, so I propose that if gay marriage is recognized in all fifty states, all heterosexual marriages are rendered null and void immediately.

    Let's make this interesting: raise the stakes so that both parties have something concrete to lose.

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    Re: Same sex marriage compromise

    Quote Originally Posted by Ontologuy View Post
    No,
    No? Are you saying that things don't change?

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    Re: Same sex marriage compromise

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    Marriage has always been about one thing...until it wasn't. Slavery was always the norm, until it wasn't.

    Evolve.
    Not that I agree or disagree here, but liberals, progressives and socialists need to stop calling everything they support evolution. Everyone is aware you are doing it to gain the higher ground, so stop it.

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    Re: Same sex marriage compromise

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Not that I agree or disagree here, but liberals, progressives and socialists need to stop calling everything they support evolution.
    Leaving bigotry behind is evolution.

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    Re: Same sex marriage compromise

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Because the government recognizes marriage, much like it does other things. Benefits are connected to it. But they do not govern the who with no justification required.

    You're looking at it wrong. It is not that marriage is a constitutional right. Equality is.
    You do realize that the government recognition of marriage is illegal, since the government is given boundaries by the constitution, which has nothing about marriage. Hopefully when DOMA goes to court the justices will rescind unconsitutional marriage laws.
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    Re: Same sex marriage compromise

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    Leaving bigotry behind is evolution.
    Expanding the scope of government like people desire here is not evolution. Stop using the term.

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    Re: Same sex marriage compromise

    Fun fact: I don't want to lose my right to legal married status just so some religious people can own a word. They have no right to take that away from me in order to cement a superior position in society that they are not constitutionally entitled to in the first place. They have no right to demand exclusive access to that status for only those they approve of. Religion and the religious have no special right to shape our society, government, or law over everyone else. The medical and psychological evidence is in. Homosexuality is not a disease or mental damage. The sociological evidence is in. Children do just as well from same sex households. The legal precedents are in. Marriage is a fundamental right in this country, protected by the constitution. No one has the right to take that away, nor to demand destruction of that right because they don't get to exclusively control it anymore. The time for compromise is long past.
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    Re: Same sex marriage compromise

    Quote Originally Posted by Paschendale View Post
    Fun fact: I don't want to lose my right to legal married status just so some religious people can own a word. They have no right to take that away from me in order to cement a superior position in society that they are not constitutionally entitled to in the first place. They have no right to demand exclusive access to that status for only those they approve of. Religion and the religious have no special right to shape our society, government, or law over everyone else. The medical and psychological evidence is in. Homosexuality is not a disease or mental damage. The sociological evidence is in. Children do just as well from same sex households. The legal precedents are in. Marriage is a fundamental right in this country, protected by the constitution. No one has the right to take that away, nor to demand destruction of that right because they don't get to exclusively control it anymore. The time for compromise is long past.
    Silliness. I'm just going to ignore all the hyperbole and tell you that ending governments involvement in marriage is not ending marriage nor is it telling people they can't get married. Chill out.

    Btw, there is a difference between a right to marriage and a right to legal status of marriage. Guess which one the courts said you had?
    Last edited by Henrin; 03-27-13 at 06:41 PM.

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