I oppose SSM but could accept no government recognized marriage as a compromise.
I support SSM but could accept no government reconized marriage as a compromise
I oppose SSM It's a function of government to recognize legitimate marriages. No compromise.
I support SSM. It's a function of government to recognize legitimate marriages. No compromise.
Actually, the 14th Amendment says "privileges or immunities," not rights. As marriage is a privilege that is recognized as special by the government, I don't see how they can deprive people of this "privilege" within the 14th Amendment.
While I understand your argument about the 10th, the 10th Amendment does not make the rest of the document irrelevant. I'm fine with certain states not allowing SSM on some level, but the Federal Government has no jurisdiction over marriage. It's also hard to jive "privileges and immunities" clause with denying that privilege to certain citizens because you don't like what they do with their genitalia.
I really don't understand how people can take the position that protecting SSM is government encroaching on marriage, or telling people who they can or cannot marry. Protecting SSM is the government divesting itself of the ability to prevent people from marrying. It is the government saying "you know what, we're not actually allowed to pass this law and tell people what to do." Protecting SSM is getting government farther out of marriage.
I'm not aware of any jobs with separate standards between genders where appearance is not a part of the job (which is why you won't find male waiters at Hooters, for example), but if they are, they would be discriminatory without some compelling purpose behind them. Separation for the mere purpose of separation is unconstitutional.
Last edited by Paschendale; 03-27-13 at 11:32 AM.
Liberté. Égalité. Fraternité.
The ideal solution would be "civil unions for everyone" - with marriage (holy matrimony) left to churches, synagogues and mosques, where it belongs.
But since nobody is promoting such solution, gay marriage it is.
A marriage should be between the people in the marriage. No government, church, state, dp members, or activists need be involved. Just the people in the marriage.
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