View Poll Results: Could you accept no government recognized marriages as a compromise?

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  • I oppose SSM but could accept no government recognized marriage as a compromise.

    6 7.59%
  • I support SSM but could accept no government reconized marriage as a compromise

    24 30.38%
  • I oppose SSM It's a function of government to recognize legitimate marriages. No compromise.

    7 8.86%
  • I support SSM. It's a function of government to recognize legitimate marriages. No compromise.

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Thread: Same sex marriage compromise

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    Re: Same sex marriage compromise

    Quote Originally Posted by Lightning View Post
    Well actually it was and should be. The reason it is not today is because of the freaking inclination for humans to stick their noses on others business. Otherwise we would not be having this conversation today.
    I'm not a religious person. Should I not be allowed to marry?

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    Re: Same sex marriage compromise

    Quote Originally Posted by Bonzai View Post
    And what ? Wait for Christians to "evolve" ? After 2013 years that can designated as a "pipe dream"................
    I fail to understand the second portion of your response because of poor grammar....at any rate, things should be done the right way! SSM should not be shoved down the throats of the south and other regions of the country who do not support SSM just because someone wants a tax break. Hell government has no business in any marriage to begin, since they have no legal basis. What you are basically arguing is to do things just because the LGBT community wants too no matter if it is illegal and not supported under the legal umbrella of the Constitution.
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    Re: Same sex marriage compromise

    Quote Originally Posted by zstep18 View Post
    I'm not a religious person. Should I not be allowed to marry?
    You're allowed to do whatever the hell you please. You are not and should not be allowed to shove your will and the will of the LGBT down the throats of regions around the country that do not support it. That is the thinking of the SCOTUS. Marriage has no legal protection under the Constitution, which is why DOMA will fall, and why this case will just be kicked back to the district courts.

    I will warn you however, that you my friend are engaging in a historically religious ceremony, which makes your decision to marry (because of you convictions) comical.
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    Re: Same sex marriage compromise

    Quote Originally Posted by Lightning View Post
    I don't recall the 14th saying anything about same-sex marriage....oh wait that's right it doesn't! It is a religious institution by the way. I would like for you to point where in the constitution it explicitly talks about marriage. Didn't think so.
    The 14th Amendment was a rather broad amendment, and for good reason.

    I don't recall the 14th Amendment saying about African-Americans and denying African-Americans civil and political rights either.

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    Re: Same sex marriage compromise

    Quote Originally Posted by Lightning View Post
    I fail to understand the second portion of your response because of poor grammar....at any rate, things should be done the right way! SSM should not be shoved down the throats of the south and other regions of the country who do not support SSM just because someone wants a tax break. Hell government has no business in any marriage to begin, since they have no legal basis. What you are basically arguing is to do things just because the LGBT community wants too no matter if it is illegal and not supported under the legal umbrella of the Constitution.
    If the rights of gays can be left up to the mob, then everyone's rights shall be left up to the mob----------Got it ?...............

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    Re: Same sex marriage compromise

    Quote Originally Posted by Lightning View Post
    The thing is you're using the same argument that Mr. Olson was using at the hearings held by the SCOTUS, where he was using Loving v. Virginia as support. And like Justice Scalia said, they are completely different issues which do not entail the same things. You're trying to use a limited precedent set by the SCOTUS to eliminate racism and to eliminate the constant labeling of people who are not white inferior to society, to sexual preference by certain individuals.
    I'm not using a limited anything. I'm using a broad idea.

    I actually take your whole post as a compliment.

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    Re: Same sex marriage compromise

    Quote Originally Posted by zstep18 View Post
    The 14th Amendment was a rather broad amendment, and for good reason.

    I don't recall the 14th Amendment saying about African-Americans and denying African-Americans civil and political rights either.
    Umm actually it does include a portion that says and I quote that "No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws."

    SO in other words, if you are a citizen of the U.S. you are afforded civil and political rights....making your statement a rather ignorant one. Unless you were referring to AFRICANS and others who are NOT citizens. If thats the case, than tough tit, become a citizen if you want the benefits so bad.
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    Re: Same sex marriage compromise

    Quote Originally Posted by Bonzai View Post
    If the rights of gays can be left up to the mob, then everyone's rights shall be left up to the mob----------Got it ?...............
    You just proved my point.....if the mob, in this case the LGBT community wants things to be a certain way, than the rights of over 4/5 of the country's state which currently do not support the LEGALIZATION of gay marriage will be chucked out the window just because you do not want it to be that way. "To hell with the Constitution" is all I see coming from your posts.
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    Re: Same sex marriage compromise

    Quote Originally Posted by zstep18 View Post
    I'm not using a limited anything. I'm using a broad idea.

    I actually take your whole post as a compliment.
    Well glad to hear that my comments are flattering, and gad to hear that you finally understand that this broad idea has no legal basis.
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    Re: Same sex marriage compromise

    Quote Originally Posted by zstep18 View Post
    The 14th Amendment was a rather broad amendment, and for good reason.

    I don't recall the 14th Amendment saying about African-Americans and denying African-Americans civil and political rights either.
    That's because it's preceded by the Civil Rights Act of 1866 which does indeed do that. The 14th basically established those changes to federal law into constitutional requirement.

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