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    Re: Does "Political Correctness" violate "Free Speech"?

    Quote Originally Posted by mak2 View Post
    Which discussion do you think has been "shut down?" by political correctness?
    I'll give you two, if that helps.

    The first "discussion" shut down by political correctness is airport "profiling" - the left in America would much prefer that everybody's grandmother and 3 year old toddler was strip searched and molested by TSA agents than do what the Israelis do at their airports - they target and watch out for those who are in groups known for terrorist activities and that are travelling alone, etc. Do that in America and the left and the ACLU is out in force claiming racial profiling and using that to shut down the discussion by claiming anyone who wants to profile is a racist.

    The second "discussion" shut down by political correctness is related to gun control and gun violence and the actual prevalence of guns used to murder and cause mayhem among black and hispanic youth, in gangs, in major cities. The left likes to cite gun death statistics as a reason to control gun manufacturing and possession when by far the vast majority of deaths due to gun violence is black and hispanic youths killing black and hispanic youths in inner cities in North America, and most of these crimes are committed with handguns, not assault weapons, as the left would like you to believe.

    I could go on, but that's example enough.

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    Re: Does "Political Correctness" violate "Free Speech"?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bori View Post
    normally I don't pay too much attention to the topic, but this is an interesting one ... calling some speech PC is a way to denigrate the idea behind it, and that is to be more aware of of the things you say because words harm, sometimes deeply, and sometimes help to perpetuate stereotypes, for example ... for the most part, it doesn't suppress free speech because for the most part no one can stop us from being insensitive or even hateful ... BUT, I guess one can say that it "violates" or at least regulates free speech when you can get fired for something you say ... this is truly a tough one ... should a man at work be able to say to female co-workers, "Hey baby! You look hot today! Mmmmmmmmmmm." On the other hand, is it going too far to prohibit a man from saying to a female co-worker, "You look nice today," which is discouraged in most work places ...
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    Re: Does "Political Correctness" violate "Free Speech"?

    Airport profilinig is systematic discrimination against a certian group of people. What the Isreales do really holds no weight with me, we are American. This is not an example of polotical correctness. If I was a terrorist and wanted to sneak something on a plane, I might just sneak in aboard in the ganny's carry on or the baby's diaper.

    Siting statistics for against , right or wrong, is not polotical correctness
    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    I'll give you two, if that helps.

    The first "discussion" shut down by political correctness is airport "profiling" - the left in America would much prefer that everybody's grandmother and 3 year old toddler was strip searched and molested by TSA agents than do what the Israelis do at their airports - they target and watch out for those who are in groups known for terrorist activities and that are travelling alone, etc. Do that in America and the left and the ACLU is out in force claiming racial profiling and using that to shut down the discussion by claiming anyone who wants to profile is a racist.

    The second "discussion" shut down by political correctness is related to gun control and gun violence and the actual prevalence of guns used to murder and cause mayhem among black and hispanic youth, in gangs, in major cities. The left likes to cite gun death statistics as a reason to control gun manufacturing and possession when by far the vast majority of deaths due to gun violence is black and hispanic youths killing black and hispanic youths in inner cities in North America, and most of these crimes are committed with handguns, not assault weapons, as the left would like you to believe.

    I could go on, but that's example enough.
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    Re: Does "Political Correctness" violate "Free Speech"?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bori View Post
    I'm feeling a little jealous ...
    Good morning, Bori.

    LOL! I didn't have the required amount of caffeine in me yet to start listing names, but all of our gang, and you know who they are, can always be counted on to honestly state their opinion! In your case, keeping AP from getting lazy and complacent seems to be an enjoyable part of your life! And Mangas, bless his heart, is always good for pages of outraged dissenting commentary, which makes for fun reading! Most everyone on this site offers much in the way of good debate, which is why I like it here. And when a little humor is thrown in, it just about makes it perfect! I thusly explain my own addiction to DP, while letting my housework pile up till I receive threatening notes from my family.... :

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    Re: Does "Political Correctness" violate "Free Speech"?

    Quote Originally Posted by polgara View Post
    Good morning, Bori.

    LOL! I didn't have the required amount of caffeine in me yet to start listing names, but all of our gang, and you know who they are, can always be counted on to honestly state their opinion! In your case, keeping AP from getting lazy and complacent seems to be an enjoyable part of your life! And Mangas, bless his heart, is always good for pages of outraged dissenting commentary, which makes for fun reading! Most everyone on this site offers much in the way of good debate, which is why I like it here. And when a little humor is thrown in, it just about makes it perfect! I thusly explain my own addiction to DP, while letting my housework pile up till I receive threatening notes from my family.... :

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    Re: Does "Political Correctness" violate "Free Speech"?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bori View Post
    tell them to do it, that you're busy (if that doesn't work, unionize) ... gotta go ... have a good one ...
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    Re: Does "Political Correctness" violate "Free Speech"?

    Quote Originally Posted by APACHERAT View Post
    Did he just use the N word ?

    We know under political correctness only blacks and white beard scratching liberals are allowed to use that word.

    Anyone else who says that word will is labeled a racist.
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    Re: Does "Political Correctness" violate "Free Speech"?

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    I'll give you two, if that helps.

    The first "discussion" shut down by political correctness is airport "profiling" - the left in America would much prefer that everybody's grandmother and 3 year old toddler was strip searched and molested by TSA agents than do what the Israelis do at their airports - they target and watch out for those who are in groups known for terrorist activities and that are travelling alone, etc. Do that in America and the left and the ACLU is out in force claiming racial profiling and using that to shut down the discussion by claiming anyone who wants to profile is a racist.

    The second "discussion" shut down by political correctness is related to gun control and gun violence and the actual prevalence of guns used to murder and cause mayhem among black and hispanic youth, in gangs, in major cities. The left likes to cite gun death statistics as a reason to control gun manufacturing and possession when by far the vast majority of deaths due to gun violence is black and hispanic youths killing black and hispanic youths in inner cities in North America, and most of these crimes are committed with handguns, not assault weapons, as the left would like you to believe.

    I could go on, but that's example enough.
    How exactly does this relate to 'freedom of speech'? Is it your position that anybody should be allowed to say anything without anybody else taking offense? Or pointing out a counter-position?

    Freedom of speech deals with restricting the Government from telling people what they cannot say - and even that isn't absolute. If you don't believe me, walk through any airport and speak loudly about the weapons you are carrying.
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    Re: Does "Political Correctness" violate "Free Speech"?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mathematician View Post
    Political correctness aside:
    - blacks need to shut up about slavery and racism
    - gays need to get back in the closet
    - feminists need to shut up and let the females be "ladies"
    - illegals need to get tossed out and suspended 5 years from applying for entry
    And extreme right wing neo-nazis need to be expelled from the country when they espouse racist, bigotted, drivel.
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    Re: Does "Political Correctness" violate "Free Speech"?

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiggen View Post
    How exactly does this relate to 'freedom of speech'? Is it your position that anybody should be allowed to say anything without anybody else taking offense? Or pointing out a counter-position?

    Freedom of speech deals with restricting the Government from telling people what they cannot say - and even that isn't absolute. If you don't believe me, walk through any airport and speak loudly about the weapons you are carrying.
    What part of a discussion about "political correctness" did you not understand as it relates to the two situations I presented?

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