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    Re: Does "Political Correctness" violate "Free Speech"?

    One is free to pretty much say what they will in this country.... if they are willing to carry the consequences for such.
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    Re: Does "Political Correctness" violate "Free Speech"?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tigger View Post
    Political Correctness is the verbal version of Affirmative Action; both of which are unConstitutional by nature.
    I agree, politically correct language should be banned in the name of free speech.
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    Re: Does "Political Correctness" violate "Free Speech"?

    Quote Originally Posted by Un biased View Post
    Do you have a article to prove your statment
    No, I don't feel like digging any of it up now.

    But rest assured, there is nothing as "trendy" among far-right people than whining about alleged "political correctness". Which basically just means they're upset the mainstream is less right-wing than they are and they can't deal with constant disagreement, so they have to construct a conspiracy.
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    Re: Does "Political Correctness" violate "Free Speech"?

    Quote Originally Posted by mak2 View Post
    How bout some examples? I teach in a couple of colleges, I am not aware of any opinion I am not allowed to have. I have never heard of a co worked being sent to sensitivity training. A small group of malcontents? Remember those town hall meetings? In the second paragragh that sounds a lot like the They do it too defense often heard in 3rd grade. Rush Limbaugh hurt their ratings, I beleive that was a buisness decision. Imus was so far out of line I can't even think of a defense for his statement. Ann Coulter is offensive to anyone not of the far far right, again a buisness decision.
    USATODAY.com - On campus: Free speech for you but not for me?

    On campuses large and small, public and private, students describe a culture in which freshmen are encouraged, if not required, to attend diversity programs that portray white males as oppressors. It's a culture in which students can be punished if their choice of words offends a classmate, and campus groups must promise they won't discriminate on the basis of religion or sexual orientation — even if theirs is a Christian club that doesn't condone homosexuality.
    Shaming Students into Silence: Fordham University, Ann Coulter, and the Speech Code Mentality |

    Our latest newsletter highlights the prevalence of university speech codes and the “you can’t say that” atmosphere they create on campus. These speech codes—which about 65% of public universities have on the books—forbid students from saying anything that university administrators deem offensive, intolerant, or emotionally upsetting. Taken literally and applied across the board, these policies would shut down virtually all discourse on campus (including even presidential debates), turning the “marketplace of ideas” into a ghost town. But they are only enforced selectively to silence particular viewpoints, usually conservative and Christian ones. To university administrators, secular or leftist speech is “provocative” or “challenging” and thus celebrated as essential to the academy. But conservative or Christian ideas are “offensive” or even “hateful,” threaten the university community, and so the students espousing them must either be silenced or sanctioned. So in practice, speech codes allow university officials to decide what ideas can be expressed on campus and to punish anyone who says anything that they do not want students to hear.
    These are just two examples of many. A quick search of Google can yield many many more. Also what you call business decisions I call political correctness. Had the progressives not applied pressure they would not have gotten fired, although Rush resign before the axe fell. And whether or not you find Ann Coulter offensive is not the point. She has been invited to many campuses around the country by conservative college groups, only to have universities rescind the invitation, because a left wing progressive organization protested claiming hate speech.

    Political correctness is out of control on college campuses around the country whether you see it or not. And at institutions of higher learning I would expect a diversity of ideas would be welcome, not shouted down by small bands of malcontents, or by weak kneed administrators who are afraid of ideas different from their own.
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    Re: Does "Political Correctness" violate "Free Speech"?

    Quote Originally Posted by MrLiberty View Post
    USATODAY.com - On campus: Free speech for you but not for me?



    Shaming Students into Silence: Fordham University, Ann Coulter, and the Speech Code Mentality |



    These are just two examples of many. A quick search of Google can yield many many more. Also what you call business decisions I call political correctness. Had the progressives not applied pressure they would not have gotten fired, although Rush resign before the axe fell. And whether or not you find Ann Coulter offensive is not the point. She has been invited to many campuses around the country by conservative college groups, only to have universities rescind the invitation, because a left wing progressive organization protested claiming hate speech.

    Political correctness is out of control on college campuses around the country whether you see it or not. And at institutions of higher learning I would expect a diversity of ideas would be welcome, not shouted down by small bands of malcontents, or by weak kneed administrators who are afraid of ideas different from their own.
    I think it's normal that you will face massive, even emotional disagreement by a majority, when you voice opinions that are in crass contrast to basic convictions the respective majority holds dear. Naturally, the opinions that trigger such a reaction differ with the respective group of people you're speaking to; naturally, other opinions will enrage the common liberal college student than, say, a veteran meeting, a KKK meeting or a church group.

    Why this is "political correctness" and exclusive to the left will remain the secret of Ann Coulter and her friends. As there is such a thing as a right-wing "political correctness" too: Just dare saying to a random group of patriots that America committed war crimes, that war is evil or that America is not the greatest country on the planet, and the reaction you'll face will not be different than the one you describe. The only difference being that you disagree with one group, but agree with the other.
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    Re: Does "Political Correctness" violate "Free Speech"?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tigger View Post
    I'm not as upset with the idea of losing the job as I am the social issues that go with being accused of political incorrectness or failing to live up to the ideals of affirmative action. Obviously a private employer has the right to do whatever they want. However, I do not feel that there is a need for a bank manager to insult me and be extremely rude to me, in quite a loud voice when I inform him (quite politely) that I'm moving my accounts out of his bank because there are no male tellers left in any of their branches. I didn't offer the information as to why until he asked the third third (trying to be polite). Then he goes off on me about it. That was entirely unnecessary and quite rude.
    not to mention that it was a waste of energy. anyone silly enough to throw some chauvinistic tantrum over the sex of a bank teller doesn't really deserve to be acknowledged one way or the other. personally, i wouldn't have done anything other than to ask you to leave and to not return until you mature a little. additionally, you would have left without your money.

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    Re: Does "Political Correctness" violate "Free Speech"?

    The first article is a decade old, I still know of not a single idea I cannot discuss teaching. I did think of a co worker that got sent to sexual harrassment class. I think that was a lucky break for him, who knew you couldnt grab a girls butt? But ok, sure, the conservatives are disctiminated against, if Ann Coulter says it...
    Quote Originally Posted by German guy View Post
    I think it's normal that you will face massive, even emotional disagreement by a majority, when you voice opinions that are in crass contrast to basic convictions the respective majority holds dear. Naturally, the opinions that trigger such a reaction differ with the respective group of people you're speaking to; naturally, other opinions will enrage the common liberal college student than, say, a veteran meeting, a KKK meeting or a church group.

    Why this is "political correctness" and exclusive to the left will remain the secret of Ann Coulter and her friends. As there is such a thing as a right-wing "political correctness" too: Just dare saying to a random group of patriots that America committed war crimes, that war is evil or that America is not the greatest country on the planet, and the reaction you'll face will not be different than the one you describe. The only difference being that you disagree with one group, but agree with the other.
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    Re: Does "Political Correctness" violate "Free Speech"?

    Quote Originally Posted by spud_meister View Post
    I agree, politically correct language should be banned in the name of free speech.
    No. It should be banned in the name of Truth.

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    Re: Does "Political Correctness" violate "Free Speech"?

    Quote Originally Posted by Helix View Post
    not to mention that it was a waste of energy. anyone silly enough to throw some chauvinistic tantrum over the sex of a bank teller doesn't really deserve to be acknowledged one way or the other. personally, i wouldn't have done anything other than to ask you to leave and to not return until you mature a little. additionally, you would have left without your money.
    At which point he would have had a bank robbery on his hands. I was not leaving there without my money and I had the means to ensure it with me at the time.

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    Re: Does "Political Correctness" violate "Free Speech"?

    Quote Originally Posted by Canell View Post
    Howdy!

    So, we have "freedom of speech" but can we use it? What do you think?

    Sure, but if your'e a racist or a dick, you don't have a right to not be called a racist of a dick.

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