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    Re: Does "Political Correctness" violate "Free Speech"?

    Quote Originally Posted by polgara View Post
    Good afternoon, Apacherat

    It's probably the same group who decided that tropheys for the winning team was unfair to the losing team, so now everyone gets a trophey. No wonder kids feel they are owed something just for showing up! And talking to some Human Resource people I know, they have the same attitude when they're applying for a job!....:
    Am I being nonPC when I call Christians "Jesusbozos" ?.......................

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    Re: Does "Political Correctness" violate "Free Speech"?

    Quote Originally Posted by Slyfox696 View Post
    But the 1st Amendment which protects free speech IS talking about just the government, specifically Congress.
    You missed the point, I'm not commenting on the government passing laws on speech, they are not. But I am talking about political correctness in general.

    Yes...how awful that the MSM hasn't picked up on a CEO who supports equality...

    I'm sorry, did you really just say supporting equality is a bad thing? Of course, I could also point out the difference in what the two CEO's said, one of which said he thought people should be denied equal rights and the other simply said we don't want your business, but I'm sure you're probably not interested in that.

    If supporting equality is "political correctness", then sign me up.
    OK, trying to put words in my mouth does not win you any points. I was comparing the hypocrisy of the left wing media in regards to the two stories. One being politically correct in support of the gay community, and the other being politically incorrect because it involves a person support for Christianity. The two stories are similar in nature, but the one doesn't fit the liberal narative so the left wing media will ignore it.


    Again, I refer you back to the difference between what the two people said.

    And for what it's worth, I have absolutely no problem with what Dan Cathy said. I still eat Chick-Fil-A. As long as Dan Cathy and Chick-Fil-A do not discriminate against homosexuals in their business, I have no problem with them. But there is a huge difference in what the two people said. One said they do not support equality. The other said they do not want the business of those who do not support equality. Big difference.
    And they are certainly welcome to believe that. But until it is actually changed, it doesn't matter what they think.
    Both actually said they have a certain belief, one for Christianity the other for homosexuality. One was vilified in the press, will the other receive the same? I already know the answer and so do you. The answer is no.[/QUOTE]
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    Re: Does "Political Correctness" violate "Free Speech"?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bonzai View Post
    Am I being nonPC when I call Christians "Jesusbozos" ?.......................
    : Probably, but I haven't seen the No-No-No list, which seems to be updated hourly..... The only conclusion I can draw is that a group of people somewhere just walk around waiting to be offended...by something...so they can happily add it to the list....

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    Re: Does "Political Correctness" violate "Free Speech"?

    Quote Originally Posted by polgara View Post
    Good afternoon, Apacherat

    It's probably the same group who decided that tropheys for the winning team was unfair to the losing team, so now everyone gets a trophey. No wonder kids feel they are owed something just for showing up! And talking to some Human Resource people I know, they have the same attitude when they're applying for a job!....:
    That is an excellent point.

    Something mathematicians do whenever they recognize a pattern is determine how much the statement can be generalized. This applies to life just as much as mathematics. Parents have known for generations that the longer you go to wipe a kid's butt for them, they'll gladly let you. Teaching kids a little initiative and independence starts early.

    The participation trophy is a perfect example of sending the message to kids that they deserve something even when they are unsuccessful, instead of letting them go home with nothing and teaching them that they need to try harder next year. This is why the kids graduating college right now think that just because they finished that they are going to be handed a job right away. Moreover, they expect to start off where they want. Back when I graduated, I knew that employers sought experience as much as, if not more than, education. If the kids today spent half as much time looking for work as they do complaining, their unemployment would drop drastically. They should even start looking for employment up to two years before they graduate.
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    Re: Does "Political Correctness" violate "Free Speech"?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mathematician View Post
    That is an excellent point.

    Something mathematicians do whenever they recognize a pattern is determine how much the statement can be generalized. This applies to life just as much as mathematics. Parents have known for generations that the longer you go to wipe a kid's butt for them, they'll gladly let you. Teaching kids a little initiative and independence starts early.

    The participation trophy is a perfect example of sending the message to kids that they deserve something even when they are unsuccessful, instead of letting them go home with nothing and teaching them that they need to try harder next year. This is why the kids graduating college right now think that just because they finished that they are going to be handed a job right away. Moreover, they expect to start off where they want. Back when I graduated, I knew that employers sought experience as much as, if not more than, education. If the kids today spent half as much time looking for work as they do complaining, their unemployment would drop drastically. They should even start looking for employment up to two years before they graduate.
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    Re: Does "Political Correctness" violate "Free Speech"?

    Quote Originally Posted by polgara View Post
    Good afternoon, Apacherat

    It's probably the same group who decided that tropheys for the winning team was unfair to the losing team, so now everyone gets a trophey. No wonder kids feel they are owed something just for showing up! And talking to some Human Resource people I know, they have the same attitude when they're applying for a job!....:
    But how many are there in this group ?

    A few years ago some liberal revisionist historian decided that the name of the "Philippine Insurrection" war was politically incorrect and decided to rename that war the "Philippine-American War", I #### you not. Go to Wikipedia and you will see that they changed the name of that war after 110 years to the liberal politicaly correct name.

    Just last year the Obama administration decided that the old phrase "Hold down the fort" was racist and the term "Rule of thumb" was a derogatory term. Come on, what's with the Democrat Party ???

    Does political correctness violate free speech ? Yes it does.

    Since liberals and the Democrat Party are responsible for all of this political correctness, they are the ones who violate America's free speech.

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    Re: Does "Political Correctness" violate "Free Speech"?

    Quote Originally Posted by MrLiberty View Post
    You missed the point, I'm not commenting on the government passing laws on speech, they are not. But I am talking about political correctness in general.



    OK, trying to put words in my mouth does not win you any points. I was comparing the hypocrisy of the left wing media in regards to the two stories. One being politically correct in support of the gay community, and the other being politically incorrect because it involves a person support for Christianity. The two stories are similar in nature, but the one doesn't fit the liberal narative so the left wing media will ignore it.




    Both actually said they have a certain belief, one for Christianity the other for homosexuality. One was vilified in the press, will the other receive the same? I already know the answer and so do you. The answer is no.
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    Re: Does "Political Correctness" violate "Free Speech"?

    Quote Originally Posted by APACHERAT View Post
    But how many are there in this group ?

    A few years ago some liberal revisionist historian decided that the name of the "Philippine Insurrection" war was politically incorrect and decided to rename that war the "Philippine-American War", I #### you not. Go to Wikipedia and you will see that they changed the name of that war after 110 years to the liberal politicaly correct name.
    Well, actually....

    Americans tended to refer to the ensuing conflict as an “insurrection” rather than acknowledge the Filipinos’ contention that they were fighting to ward off a foreign invader.
    Office of the Historian - Milestones - 1899-1913 - The Philippine-American War

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    Re: Does "Political Correctness" violate "Free Speech"?

    How much easier it would be to herd the human livestock if it weren't for those pesky queers.....................
    How much?
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    Re: Does "Political Correctness" violate "Free Speech"?

    Quote Originally Posted by Canell View Post
    Howdy!

    So, we have "freedom of speech" but can we use it? What do you think?

    It depends on the institution.

    The government cannot force others to be politically correct. However, they themselves can choose to use politically correct language on their various forms, such as during the census and the like.

    If you work for a business, that business can require of its employees to use politically correct language if that business chooses to use it in their operations while those employees are at work.

    On your own time, you can be as politically incorrect as you want.
    Also, we need to legalize recreational drugs and prostitution.

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