View Poll Results: Does "Political Correctness" violate "Free Speech"?

Voters
49. You may not vote on this poll
  • Yes

    23 46.94%
  • No

    24 48.98%
  • I don't know

    2 4.08%
Page 14 of 18 FirstFirst ... 41213141516 ... LastLast
Results 131 to 140 of 177

Thread: Does "Political Correctness" violate "Free Speech"?

  1. #131
    Sage
    Slyfox696's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2013
    Last Seen
    Yesterday @ 10:59 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Moderate
    Posts
    7,986

    Re: Does "Political Correctness" violate "Free Speech"?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tigger View Post
    Yes, that is exactly what I am advocating. I'm not a strong proponent of the Rights system the US uses. I'm more a proponent of a Privileges system.
    Wow, it's not often I've heard a proponent of this (if ever). It seems to be it would be FAR more disastrous to tell people what they are allowed and not allowed to say and do. After all, what's to stop one political party from passing a law saying the only politician you're allowed to vote for would be one from their party?

    I know this isn't a thread for that, but I'd be very interested at some point in hearing how you'd balance your belief with avoiding tyranny.

    Does your belief extend to all rights? Or is it limited to this particular issue, to curb political correctness?

  2. #132
    Liberal Fascist For Life!


    Redress's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2008
    Location
    Georgia
    Last Seen
    Today @ 07:01 AM
    Lean
    Very Liberal
    Posts
    93,361
    Blog Entries
    2

    Re: Does "Political Correctness" violate "Free Speech"?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tigger View Post
    Yes I do. As with most Rights, I believe they should be Privileges instead.
    Well that ain't gunna happen.



    It is a speech issue as related to motive for and punishment of the crime.
    Motive is not speech.



    Either way, the right to employ those that I choose, which is both a matter of speech and assembly is being infringed upon by the Government.
    Hiring is not speech.
    We became a great nation not because we are a nation of cynics. We became a great nation because we are a nation of believers - Lindsey Graham

    Quote Originally Posted by Fiddytree View Post
    Uh oh Megyn...your vagina witchcraft is about ready to be exposed.

  3. #133
    Banned
    Join Date
    Jul 2011
    Location
    New England
    Last Seen
    05-01-14 @ 03:29 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Very Conservative
    Posts
    12,879

    Re: Does "Political Correctness" violate "Free Speech"?

    Quote Originally Posted by Slyfox696 View Post
    Wow, it's not often I've heard a proponent of this (if ever). It seems to be it would be FAR more disastrous to tell people what they are allowed and not allowed to say and do. After all, what's to stop one political party from passing a law saying the only politician you're allowed to vote for would be one from their party?

    I know this isn't a thread for that, but I'd be very interested at some point in hearing how you'd balance your belief with avoiding tyranny.

    Does your belief extend to all rights? Or is it limited to this particular issue, to curb political correctness?
    If you're really interested, contact me privately and we can have a conversation there.

    Though I'll tell you this..... Where did I suggest I'd be against Tyranny? I'm an Authoritarian at heart.

  4. #134
    King Conspiratard
    Dr. Chuckles's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2011
    Last Seen
    02-13-14 @ 03:04 PM
    Lean
    Slightly Conservative
    Posts
    12,895

    Re: Does "Political Correctness" violate "Free Speech"?

    Quote Originally Posted by Slyfox696 View Post
    I don't think of political correctness as being two faced. I think of political correctness as not saying inflammatory things about a particular demographic of people. If you are white and would go up to a black person you know and tell them you think they are a liar and an unethical person, that would not be in violation of political correctness. But if you called her the "n" word and a female dog, it would be.
    I think the problem might be is that what we often view as inflammatory isn't really based on fact or reason, but the type of emotions it elicits.

  5. #135
    Angry Former GOP Voter
    Fiddytree's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2008
    Last Seen
    Today @ 12:20 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Centrist
    Posts
    25,705

    Re: Does "Political Correctness" violate "Free Speech"?

    Political correctness, as it were, is simply the adjustment of an overarching language structure largely in existence currently. It no more violates free speech than language which does not subscribe to "political correctness." If one were to supplant the English language preference of male for female or human, all you have done is adjust the mental preferences of patriarchy for matriarchy or gender-neutrality. Societal preference for male constrains thought which may be contrary, but it does so on an massively-accepted basis.
    Last edited by Fiddytree; 03-25-13 at 01:57 PM.
    Michael J Petrilli-"Is School Choice Enough?"-A response to the recent timidity of American conservatives toward education reform. https://nationalaffairs.com/publicat...-choice-enough

  6. #136
    Banned
    Join Date
    Jul 2011
    Location
    New England
    Last Seen
    05-01-14 @ 03:29 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Very Conservative
    Posts
    12,879

    Re: Does "Political Correctness" violate "Free Speech"?

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    But you have also rejected the legal systems that are not focused on rights, rehabilitation, or legality. You have rejected all of them
    They're all flawed in one way or another. At least the one's I've had the opportunity to read about and see over time.

  7. #137
    Angry Former GOP Voter
    Fiddytree's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2008
    Last Seen
    Today @ 12:20 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Centrist
    Posts
    25,705

    Re: Does "Political Correctness" violate "Free Speech"?

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    That is not quite correct. If the gov't allows others (e.g. employers or coworkers) to punish you, without recourse, then you are still being punished for expressing non-PC thoughts. If your right to speak freely causes you to lose your job or opportunity to participate in public discussions then you are still being punished, just by being denied any "due process" for recourse. Just because there are no criminal penalties does not mean that there not civil consequences.
    And those who think or speak contrary to currently accepted thoughts and cultural mores are somehow not punished for not following the norm? Essentially, you do subscribe to what, you perceive to be, "political correctness", it is just that you subscribe to a specific set of forms and norms that are enforced through societal structures against other groups of people. All that is really different is they are supplanting one set of forms and norms for another.
    Michael J Petrilli-"Is School Choice Enough?"-A response to the recent timidity of American conservatives toward education reform. https://nationalaffairs.com/publicat...-choice-enough

  8. #138
    Sage
    Perotista's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2013
    Location
    Georgia
    Last Seen
    Yesterday @ 11:26 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Other
    Posts
    17,961
    Blog Entries
    25

    Re: Does "Political Correctness" violate "Free Speech"?

    Quote Originally Posted by Slyfox696 View Post
    You are more than welcome to ignore those who wish for political correctness.

    Interviewing and accepting applications is not the same thing as hiring people, which is what you said.

    A lament myself and many others like me have about Fox News and MSNBC.

    It's just part of it.

    I'm confused, are you advocating people NOT being allowed to express opposing opinions? Could you please clarify?


    I don't think of political correctness as being two faced. I think of political correctness as not saying inflammatory things about a particular demographic of people. If you are white and would go up to a black person you know and tell them you think they are a liar and an unethical person, that would not be in violation of political correctness. But if you called her the "n" word and a female dog, it would be.

    Perhaps to you, but PC has developed way beyond just not calling someone the n word or a b. What you are talking about is what my parents called manners. It is not PC in the sense of what it has become.
    This Reform Party member thinks it is high past time that we start electing Americans to congress and the presidency who put America first and their political party further down the line. But for way too long we have been electing Republicans and Democrats who happen to be Americans instead of Americans who happen to be Republicans and Democrats.

  9. #139
    Banned
    Join Date
    Nov 2012
    Last Seen
    02-18-14 @ 08:18 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Libertarian - Right
    Posts
    5,660

    Re: Does "Political Correctness" violate "Free Speech"?

    Quote Originally Posted by Canell View Post
    Howdy!

    So, we have "freedom of speech" but can we use it? What do you think?

    Ask Don Imus

  10. #140
    Sage
    lizzie's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2009
    Location
    between two worlds
    Last Seen
    @
    Gender
    Lean
    Libertarian
    Posts
    28,581

    Re: Does "Political Correctness" violate "Free Speech"?

    It doesn't violate free spech- it just make some people feel hesitant to express themselves openly, for fear of being viewed as not a part of the herd.
    "God is the name by which I designate all things which cross my path violently and recklessly, all things which alter my plans and intentions, and change the course of my life, for better or for worse."
    -C G Jung

Page 14 of 18 FirstFirst ... 41213141516 ... LastLast

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •