View Poll Results: Is the Tea Party relevant anymore?

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    22 39.29%
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  • They will be in 2016

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  • Never were

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  • What's the Tea Party?

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    Re: Is the Tea Party Relevant Anymore?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gipper View Post
    Not really. Obama did a good job at dispersing the movement. He did some prestidigitation and raised everyone's taxes while invoking positive sounding terms like "universal health care". He deluded the masses. Now they're all enamored and oblivious to Democrat politicking.
    Now don't go giving President Obama the credit where it isn't due- that is what many 'conservatives' claim liberals do...

    The TP's did this to themselves, they were at the peak of their terror in the GOP during Healthcare debates. I'd say they really didn't need to win healthcare but show their power and intimidate the Old Guard in the GOP, which they did.

    IF they had kept to the message of taxes, E-Vile Gubmint, and the nanny state- well the nanny state for anyone under 65, they would have been better served.

    But like the now out of favor neo-cons the TPs just had to make social issues an issue when it is the economy Stupid. They didn't just want to honor 'the family' they wanted to beat down anything else, wanted to control sexuality and seemed hell bent on returning women to a 1950's 'ideal'. They wanted to keep the 'right' to marriage just a right for hetros. Throw in some legitimate rape and many who would have voted for Willard saw TP over reach as a worse deal than the beginning of healthcare reform.

    I think the GOP should shorten their primary process and REALLY limit debate prior to naming their candidate. The Party of Freedom is ill served by open and free wheeling debate. It was a circus as the flamer of the month rose and fell as the TP darling. Senator DeMint was a watery fart this election cycle. He turned away from the Presidential elections to 'concentrate' on making the Senate a GOP lead chamber. Instead of winning more seats the GOP LOST seats!

    The TP can still be a power of sorts, but the backlash from the Old Guard could be as vicious as the attacks on moderate GOP politicians was prior to this election. Would be interesting if the TPs end up the party of the more rural states and the GOP and Democrats fight for the more populous ones. That would give the TP's a lot more power in the Senate than their numbers would allow elsewhere.

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    Re: Is the Tea Party Relevant Anymore?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonfly View Post
    Simple question. Should be a simple response.

    Does the Tea Party have any relevance in today's political arena?
    I've always thought as soon as President Obama is out of office, the Tea Party will go away understanding the Tea Party to be the "We Really Hate Obama Club." I've learned a little more about the Tea Party since then, now seeing that its Genesis is really about curtailing out of control federal government spending. That said, I still believe the vast majority of the growth in numbers of the Tea Party in the early part of the Obama Administration had less to do with fiscal policy and more to to with tribalism and Obama classified as being of a different tribe despite its official mission statement. I also will modify my initial prediction from once Obama leaves office the Tea Party will go away to once the Tea Party sees the Obama Administration's tenure as no longer being contested, they will begin to take a knee as it were and we'll see the Tea Party's prominence to being to lessen over time until he leaves office in 2016. The true Tea Partiers will still be around but the huge numbers who joined not over opposition to policy but rather opposition to the person will fade making the Tea Party an insignificant force. We'll see, just my educated guess.
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    Re: Is the Tea Party Relevant Anymore?

    Quote Originally Posted by Smeagol View Post
    I've always thought as soon as President Obama is out of office, the Tea Party will go away understanding the Tea Party to be the "We Really Hate Obama Club." I've learned a little more about the Tea Party since then, now seeing that its Genesis is really about curtailing out of control federal government spending. That said, I still believe the vast majority of the growth in numbers of the Tea Party in the early part of the Obama Administration had less to do with fiscal policy and more to to with tribalism and Obama classified as being of a different tribe despite its official mission statement. I also will modify my initial prediction from once Obama leaves office the Tea Party will go away to once the Tea Party sees the Obama Administration's tenure as no longer being contested, they will begin to take a knee as it were and we'll see the Tea Party's prominence to being to lessen over time until he leaves office in 2016. The true Tea Partiers will still be around but the huge numbers who joined not over opposition to policy but rather opposition to the person will fade making the Tea Party an insignificant force. We'll see, just my educated guess.
    A nice, well-reasoned post - although I disagree with you.

    Obama's efforts to ruin this country will remain for decades and every new sign will bring more people forward to combat them. The "Tea Party" as such may not grow but others such as Independent and Libertarian will.
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    Re: Is the Tea Party Relevant Anymore?

    Quote Originally Posted by longknife View Post
    A nice, well-reasoned post - although I disagree with you.

    Obama's efforts to ruin this country will remain for decades and every new sign will bring more people forward to combat them. The "Tea Party" as such may not grow but others such as Independent and Libertarian will.

    We'll see. I'm open to being corrected.

    As far as the Independent and Libertarian parties go, I think they're possible due to fragmentation of the so-called Big Tent as more conservatives sticking to the principles. It should be interesting to see how conservative politics in America pans out over the next 10 or so years. The democrats have a huge advantage and will keep it as long as they don't get arrogant and government against the will of the people just because they (will) have the numbers to do so. The Democrats will control national politics as long as they only advance popularly supported policies instead of ramming them through against the will of the people.
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    Re: Is the Tea Party Relevant Anymore?

    no one cares about the tea party anymore

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