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    Re: Were these parents too harsh on their daughter?

    Quote Originally Posted by Rocketman View Post
    Humility comes from humiliation and how to cope with disappointment. Many school shootings are the result of kids that have never been taught to cope.
    rubbish.

    resentment comes from humiliation.
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    Re: Were these parents too harsh on their daughter?

    Quote Originally Posted by Rocketman View Post
    Parents Force Girl to Hold Sign as Punishment for Being Disrespectful. Tough Love or Too Much?

    Worried about their 13-year-old daughter's increasingly disrespectful behavior, Gentry and Renee Nickell of Crestview, Florida, decided to make her punishment humiliating and public. On Saturday, the teen (whose name has not been released) spent 90 minutes standing at a busy intersection with a hand-written sign describing her sins.

    It read: "Iím a self-entitled teenager w/no respect for authority. Iím also super smart, yet I have 3 'Dís' because I DONíT CARE."

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    No. I would've done the same. Let me put it this way...I grew up in a home where if I would've even thought about being disrespectful, I would've been picking my teeth up off the floor.

    Sure teenagers are going to have moments of disrespectful behavior, However, it turns into a habit quickly. Better nip it in the butt before it's out of hand.

    If a person does nothing...then don't be surprised when your children wind up being a teen parent, dropping out of high school or winding up in juvenile detention ... or worse.
    Fool me once, shame on you.
    Fool me twice....shame on me.

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    Re: Were these parents too harsh on their daughter?

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    I'm going to have to disagree there. First comes (agreeably) rage. Then comes exhaustion. Then comes humility.


    None of us know this girl, none of us know these parents, none of us know what has or hasn't worked in raising this child, yet all of us seem to be willing to assume that we can operate as if we did have access to all these particulars...


    Personally, I plan on using public humiliation as a tool - just precisely as my parents did. When I hurt someone else or was cruel to them, I was forced to apologize and admit what I had done - in public. It was humiliating. Our culture teaches (and we are naturally inclined to) self-justification as a default position. It is far easier to just say "sorry" quickly, quietly, privately (which is a way of publicly pretending you didn't do the deed) or "sorry that you didn't like what I did" (which is a way of putting the blame on the other).

    Associating doing wrong to another with publicly admitting it, however? That was a powerful incentive, and put me in the right position vis-a-vie my actions towards others.
    If you were being a bully publicly, then it serves a reason to have you apologize publicly. But if a kid is having family problems, then the punishment stays within the family. What these parents did was a ridiculous way of disciplining a child. You teach your kids manners and rules out of love, not anger and cruelty. Humiliating someone in this way serves no good purpose but to damage the child and make an ass of yourself.
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    Re: Were these parents too harsh on their daughter?

    Quote Originally Posted by Rocketman View Post
    I don't think so. She humiliated her parents numerous times after being asked to stop through various forms of punishments and talks. I was one of those kids as well. I laughed at talks and standing in the corner. Humility comes from handling disappointment. Kids NEVER told a teacher to **** off or kiss their ass when I was in school, now teachers call that routine. Kids today think they are untouchable and can't be held accountable for anything and that is sad in itself.
    You clearly do not know what humility is.

    humility is nothing to do with humiliation OR handling disappointment.
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    Re: Were these parents too harsh on their daughter?

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    If it had been the CEO of a company no one would have known about it. There was no reason for it to be made public except political reasons. It was just another GOP travesty that keeps happening. The Reps. have no other way to compete. Their policies are so unpopular that they stoop to the lowest possible levels to make political points instead of doing the right things for voters. It is not working though, they have failed to win the popular vote in 5 out of the last 6 Presidential contests.
    So, you're saying you're okay with the CEO's behavior as long as you don't hear about it? And there IS another reason besides the political to have made the reveal - because such behavior is not what we want in the American workplace. It's the sort of thing that falls quickly into sexual harrassment which is banned behavior.

    Again, you'd scream foul if some CEO were doing this. The POTUS you like however, gets a pass.

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    Re: Were these parents too harsh on their daughter?

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    So, you're saying you're okay with the CEO's behavior as long as you don't hear about it? And there IS another reason besides the political to have made the reveal - because such behavior is not what we want in the American workplace. It's the sort of thing that falls quickly into sexual harrassment which is banned behavior.

    Again, you'd scream foul if some CEO were doing this. The POTUS you like however, gets a pass.
    Again..What happens between consenting adults behind closed doors is none of yours or my business. There was no claim of sexual harassment made against Clinton by Monica. The only harassment was made by the GOP investigation. Now you are grasping at straws.

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    Re: Were these parents too harsh on their daughter?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    I think you'd be hard put to show that, had he been spanked at school, he wouldn't have stolen his moms guns, shot her, then gone and killed a bunch of kids.

    I can remember when we used corporal punishment at school. It didn't do much good in my experience.
    I can't remember even one school shooting when I was a kid in the 70's.

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    Re: Were these parents too harsh on their daughter?

    Quote Originally Posted by marywollstonecraft View Post
    rubbish.

    resentment comes from humiliation.
    maybe when you are 6

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    Re: Were these parents too harsh on their daughter?

    Quote Originally Posted by marywollstonecraft View Post
    You clearly do not know what humility is.

    humility is nothing to do with humiliation OR handling disappointment.
    of course it does. My Dad used to say he told me NO sometimes even if there was no real reason just so I could learn how to handle disappointment. That is something few kids of today have a grasp of. Many of them grow into adult kids posting such tripe as what is above.

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    Were these parents too harsh on their daughter?

    Quote Originally Posted by Rocketman View Post
    I can't remember even one school shooting when I was a kid in the 70's.
    Because the news didnt run 24/7. The first recorded shooting in a school was in 1764 in Pennsylvania. It happened. Charles Whitman? 1902 Altona?
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