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    Re: Were these parents too harsh on their daughter?

    Quote Originally Posted by lizzie View Post
    This sounds like a case of a sulky teenage girl who never learned how to act in a socially acceptable manner...
    And rumors say her daughter's a real piece of work, too.

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    Re: Were these parents too harsh on their daughter?

    At one time, I was a vice principal of a K-8 school.

    Now, 8th. graders are not known for their tractability, necessarily. Some are, of course, but then, there are those other ones.

    One was an 8th. grade boy who was constantly in trouble. He'd been suspended before, and had come back just as bad. The suspension for him was nothing but a vacation from school, until the last one. He was suspended for a week.

    His dad took him to the fields that week, where he spent his time "chopping cotton", which really means using a hoe to cut weeds and thin crops.

    When he came back, he was a changed lad.

    Now, this was back in the '70s. Society was somewhat different back then.

    Was this father too harsh?
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    Re: Were these parents too harsh on their daughter?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    Was this father too harsh?
    Not at all. A little hard work never hurt anyone.

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    Re: Were these parents too harsh on their daughter?

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    I think it's a sign of desperation. I don't like the idea of humiliating a child. It might depend on the child, of course, but if a parent has to resort to public humiliation? IMO, they failed a long time ago.
    I would like to agree with you, but I cannot. The pervasiveness of the Liberal denomination of the Cult of Marx in our schools is too high. Self-entitlement and entitlement mindset is a core of their indoctrination. They are taking a page from the drug dealers handbook and trying to hook them when their young. For those opposed to this kind of mindset, it is a constant battle between parents and schools now. I don't know if this kind of humiliation will be effective, but at least they are trying to teach her something.
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    Re: Were these parents too harsh on their daughter?

    Quote Originally Posted by Rocketman View Post
    Parents Force Girl to Hold Sign as Punishment for Being Disrespectful. Tough Love or Too Much?

    Worried about their 13-year-old daughter's increasingly disrespectful behavior, Gentry and Renee Nickell of Crestview, Florida, decided to make her punishment humiliating and public. On Saturday, the teen (whose name has not been released) spent 90 minutes standing at a busy intersection with a hand-written sign describing her sins.

    It read: "Iím a self-entitled teenager w/no respect for authority. Iím also super smart, yet I have 3 'Dís' because I DONíT CARE."

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    I don't know how I feel about public humiliation tactics of discipline on a 13-year-old. I wonder if that could actually do more harm than good, considering how most teens that age are already self-conscious.

    I actually think doing things like taking away their favorite things would be more effective. I think disciplining your child should probably remain a private and not a public affair.

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    Re: Were these parents too harsh on their daughter?

    Quote Originally Posted by Viktyr Gehrig View Post
    Not at all. A little hard work never hurt anyone.
    I agree.

    I also wonder how that work therapy would be viewed in today's society. Forced child labor? OMG! It's like the sweatshops in China! and etc.

    things have changed, and not necessarily for the better.
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    Re: Were these parents too harsh on their daughter?

    Quote Originally Posted by DVSentinel View Post
    I would like to agree with you, but I cannot. The pervasiveness of the Liberal denomination of the Cult of Marx in our schools is too high. Self-entitlement and entitlement mindset is a core of their indoctrination. They are taking a page from the drug dealers handbook and trying to hook them when their young. For those opposed to this kind of mindset, it is a constant battle between parents and schools now. I don't know if this kind of humiliation will be effective, but at least they are trying to teach her something.
    My point is that I don't believe public humiliation will be effective. They are far more effective ways to teach your child the importance of good study habits and acceptable grades. The sign she carried said, "I am a self-entitled teen...." Teens don't "self-entitle." Teens take advantage of the entitlements their parents provide. Mom said, "I wasn't even thinking about what the public would think," when asked about the apparent uproar that the punishment created in their town.

    Everything besides shelter, food and a safe place is a privilege to a child. The TV in her room; her computer, her cell phone, her IPad, her IPod. Everything. Contingent upon what? Breathing? No. Good grades and acceptable behavior.

    Where were these parents as she didn't do her homework? Got poor test scores throughout the grading period? Raising kids takes work. It's not something that can or should go on autopilot. That this smart girl was getting poor grades is a reflection of the values in her home. Children are very carefully nurtured to become exactly who they are. And it starts well before they're 13.
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    Re: Were these parents too harsh on their daughter?

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    My point is that I don't believe public humiliation will be effective. They are far more effective ways to teach your child the importance of good study habits and acceptable grades. The sign she carried said, "I am a self-entitled teen...." Teens don't "self-entitle." Teens take advantage of the entitlements their parents provide. Mom said, "I wasn't even thinking about what the public would think," when asked about the apparent uproar that the punishment created in their town.

    Everything besides shelter, food and a safe place is a privilege to a child. The TV in her room; her computer, her cell phone, her IPad, her IPod. Everything. Contingent upon what? Breathing? No. Good grades and acceptable behavior.

    Where were these parents as she didn't do her homework? Got poor test scores throughout the grading period? Raising kids takes work. It's not something that can or should go on autopilot. That this smart girl was getting poor grades is a reflection of the values in her home. Children are very carefully nurtured to become exactly who they are. And it starts well before they're 13.
    Well, look at how behaved kids were in your generation as children when compared to my generation as children.

    Know what the definition of insanity is? Doing the same thing repeatedly and expecting different results.

    Looking at kids today, I'm willing to litmus test anything to see if it has results.

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    Re: Were these parents too harsh on their daughter?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gipper View Post
    Well, look at how behaved kids were in your generation as children when compared to my generation as children.

    Know what the definition of insanity is? Doing the same thing repeatedly and expecting different results.

    Looking at kids today, I'm willing to litmus test anything to see if it has results.

    I don't think beating or giving humiliating tasks to crappy kids is what straightens them out, it's just letting them know that their crappy behavior is not cool. What so many Americans have opted for as an alternative to Biblical day beatings is...nothing at all, and we've all seen the occasional whackjob new age theories that misbehaved kids are not only not bad, but enlightened and further advanced than other kids.

    I say this not as a child behavioral specialist, but as someone who pays to go to a nice restaurant and is forced to watch kids acting like extras from the set of 28 Days and the parents are doing absolutely nothing.

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    Re: Were these parents too harsh on their daughter?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    I don't think beating or giving humiliating tasks to crappy kids is what straightens them out, it's just letting them know that their crappy behavior is not cool. What so many Americans have opted for as an alternative to Biblical day beatings is...nothing at all, and we've all seen the occasional whackjob new age theories that misbehaved kids are not only not bad, but enlightened and further advanced than other kids.

    I say this not as a child behavioral specialist, but as someone who pays to go to a nice restaurant and is forced to watch kids acting like extras from the set of 28 Days and the parents are doing absolutely nothing.
    I still say "humiliation" is not an appropriate word for what she did. Humiliation would be forced to strip naked in public or have the people of Crestview throw rotten fruit at her. She held up a sign that put her in her place.

    Are children really that sensitive? Maybe the right punishment for a kid who thinks she's the bees knees is to be taught a humble lesson.

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