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    Re: Is the world a better place without Saddam Hussein?

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    On the anniversary of the Iraq war the question begs to be asked.
    This is a question that Iraqis should answer.

    I'm not that interested in the answer from Americans, or Iranians, or Israelis, or Chinese, or Russians .. or French ... .

    All of them have their issues, some nuclear, most oily.

    But we slaughtered hundreds of thousands of men women and children in ousting Saddam and setting up our puppet regmine (yes, that's all it really is right now).

    So there was a heavy price Iraqis paid.

    I'd like to hear from them if they think their world is a better place now that everything has changed associated with ousting Saddam .. or if they'd rather have everything back the way it was, which would include Saddam.

    For what it's worth, though, the next time we want to effect regime change with a head-lopping .. let a damn drone do it.
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    Re: Is the world a better place without Saddam Hussein?

    Quote Originally Posted by muciti View Post
    There is the cost to consider, however, I think that when you have a government mass murdering it's people the cost is justified in removing that government. I won't argue that the war was poorly executed, but it was the right thing to do.
    That was my thinking back in 2003. While extremely skeptical of the "nation building", I was sold on the idea that nothing could be worse than letting the murderous Stalinoid regime stay in place. But as time passed, I had to admit that we are pretty much "burning the village to save it". Iraq is still a grim, dangerous place - and the cost - both human and material - had been enormous.

    Next time around, let's arrange for talking in as many refugees as possible, but keep our soldiers home. I am not saying this should be an absolute commitment, a la Ron Paul, but exceptions must have absolute clarity of goal and degree of involvement.

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    Re: Is the world a better place without Saddam Hussein?

    Quote Originally Posted by Thrilla View Post
    that's nice....and irrelevant to my opinion
    as are any and all facts.
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    Is the world a better place without Saddam Hussein?

    Quote Originally Posted by Medusa View Post
    proof ?

    l am not a fan of saddam or uday but l dont think they were like Ratko miladiÁ..
    How about the personal testimonials of the victims and uday's own personal physician?

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    Re: Is the world a better place without Saddam Hussein?

    No, not really.

    Iraq is still a horrid place to go plagued with terrorist insurgents and rolling blackouts. Did we make their lives better? I think we replaced one evil with another...hardly makes the world better.
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    Re: Is the world a better place without Saddam Hussein?

    In a Zogby poll last year 42% of Iraqis said they were worse off since the invasion.
    Last edited by Manc Skipper; 03-20-13 at 12:13 PM.
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    Re: Is the world a better place without Saddam Hussein?

    Yes. Hell Yes. Damned straight and any other words expressing extreme positives.
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    Re: Is the world a better place without Saddam Hussein?

    Quote Originally Posted by Thrilla View Post
    true enough...

    you know my stance on this... a single bullet would have been far preferable to a costly invasion/occupation. ( I have zero problem with Congress granting a letters of marque and reprisal)

    it's a very good thing that the tyrant is dead... his sons too.
    give him cancer...I hear the CIA is pretty good at that.

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    Re: Is the world a better place without Saddam Hussein?

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    Yes but thanks to Obama we have and interest in a stabalized middle east.
    Which doesn't actually explain anything about 2003. You know, before Obama....

    The world is better without Saddam. I think that invading when we did wasn't the best idea, and it was poorly planned. Listen to Richard Perle, a Pentagon advisor who pushed for the war, right around 4:20:

    Perle Looks Back On The Start Of The Iraq War : NPR

    We were just going to "turn things over immediately to Iraqis." Which begs the question "Which Iraqis?"


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    Re: Is the world a better place without Saddam Hussein?

    Quote Originally Posted by AlabamaPaul View Post
    Yes, but the attempt nation building, not so much...
    Yes. unfortunately the U.S. and many Euros think the rest of the world 'is just like us', and because nation building was successful in Japan and Germany, that sort of plan will be successful in other cultures. It won't, and we've learned that lesson, and hopefully won't be making that mistake again, and use the military for what it is intended to be for in the future. It really is a waste of time to try and bring pre-medieval savages into the 21st century.

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