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    Re: Is the world a better place without Saddam Hussein?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    You better reread what you just linked because it doesn't make your case that the war wasn't about oil.
    Something of interest.

    American Firms Shut Out Of Iraq Oil Fields - Business Insider
    http://www.businessinsider.com/ameri...-out-iraq-oil-...
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    American Energy Companies Have Been Almost Completely Shut Out Of Iraq's Oil Fields. Rob Wile | Oct. 10, 2012, 12:28 PM | 3,071 | 15 ...

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    Re: Is the world a better place without Saddam Hussein?

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    That's not the point. The point is some people seem to think he had "stopped killing." Well, that is just ridiculous IMO. He was obviously an insane madman, killing men, women, children and even babies pretty much indiscriminately. People lived in FEAR of this guy. The Iraqi people knew about the mass graves but were too afraid to speak of them because they knew better.

    The point is that our support or non-support of Saddam depended on our interests, not his brutality.
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    Re: Is the world a better place without Saddam Hussein?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    The point is that our support or non-support of Saddam depended on our interests, not his brutality.
    A lot of these graves were not even known about until the invasion.

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    Re: Is the world a better place without Saddam Hussein?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    It does indeed. The interviewee has an opinion but his own data don't bear it out. Fact is that there has been no attempt to push US oil companies into a strong position in Iraq.
    Until our invasion and occupation, US and British oil companies were completely locked out of one of the biggest oil reserves left on the planet.
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    Re: Is the world a better place without Saddam Hussein?

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    Oh no?

    From my second link:



    Read more: Mass graves found across Iraq | Mail Online
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    Addendum: Also, many, many more are still missing. People disappeared all the time in Iraq.
    Believed? In some cases? Well, that's powerful. But again, related to an uprising. And some cases don't give us any sense of how many. And that was still four full years. Not 2003.

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    Re: Is the world a better place without Saddam Hussein?

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Believed? In some cases? Well, that's powerful. But again, related to an uprising. And some cases don't give us any sense of how many. And that was still four full years. Not 2003.
    But you made the claim that he "stopped killing." That is just so . . .

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    Re: Is the world a better place without Saddam Hussein?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    Something of interest.

    American Firms Shut Out Of Iraq Oil Fields - Business Insider
    http://www.businessinsider.com/ameri...-out-iraq-oil-...
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    American Energy Companies Have Been Almost Completely Shut Out Of Iraq's Oil Fields. Rob Wile | Oct. 10, 2012, 12:28 PM | 3,071 | 15 ...


    All that shows is that Cheney had a ****ty plan. Without a US military occupation as McCain wanted, there was no way to get the Iraqis to abide by the new oil law we helped draw up. Still they have an interest now in Iraq oil they didn't have before, and they have an interest in the Kurdish oil wells they didn't have before. None of which could have happened without our invasion and occupation.
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    Re: Is the world a better place without Saddam Hussein?

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    But you made the claim that he "stopped killing." That is just so . . .
    In 2003. Sure, an uprising might start it again. But there was no uprising, there was no such killing at that time. We brought the killing in 2003, adding injury to injury as I said. When those killings were taking place, we did nothing. To be humanitian, as I liked, it must be active.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: Is the world a better place without Saddam Hussein?

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    A lot of these graves were not even known about until the invasion.
    Which is even more proof they were not the motive for our invasion and occupation.
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    Re: Is the world a better place without Saddam Hussein?

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    In 2003. Sure, an uprising might start it again. But there was no uprising, there was no such killing at that time. We brought the killing in 2003, adding injury to injury as I said. When those killings were taking place, we did nothing. To be humanitian, as I liked, it must be active.
    What exactly are you claiming now? Saddam stopped killing because he was running for his life!

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