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    Re: Is the world a better place without Saddam Hussein?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    The fact that there was no Iraqi threat to the US or its neighbors, and our invasion and occupation allowed US and British oil companies back in Iraq for the first time since 1973, prove your opinions wrong.
    No. It merely proves that Iraq has an open economy now.
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    Re: Is the world a better place without Saddam Hussein?

    I am sick of this wounded warrior bull**** where are injured vets have to beg for money to take care of their injuries...They should not have to beg for the money. They should get all he money they need to cover any injuries they have from the war.
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    Re: Is the world a better place without Saddam Hussein?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    The fact that there was no Iraqi threat to the US or its neighbors, and our invasion and occupation allowed US and British oil companies back in Iraq for the first time since 1973, prove your opinions wrong.
    Even Al-Jazeera isn't buying what you're selling.

    Western oil firms remain as US exits Iraq - Features - Al Jazeera ...
    http://<a href="http://www.aljazeera...71641.html</a>
    Jan 7, 2012 – The end of the US military occupation does not mean Iraqis have full control of their oil. ... Dr Zalloum added that he believes western oil companies have .... has been summarily rejected by most countries, including all of Iraq's ...

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    Re: Is the world a better place without Saddam Hussein?

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    I don't know how old you are but the same thing was said about the Korean Conflict, the Vietnam Conflict and now these conflicts. Any time we are at war we always have a problem with funding it.......

    I'm not old enough to remember the Korean conflict, but I vividly remember the one in Vietnam. I remember that it dragged on for a total of 21 years, counting the time we had "military advisers" there, that Nixon finally declared victory and left, that the North Vietnamese quickly overran the military dictatorship we set up after we did leave, and that it cost a ton of money and wasted lives, and that the so called "domino theory" never happened.

    Oh, and that the "my country right or wrong" folks who supported the war regardless, along with the ones who still believed that we were fighting for freedom got to be fewer and fewer as the wa.. I mean conflict drug on and on.

    And that the war was not called that, as it was never declared, which made it unconstitutional.

    and that the impetus for expanding the conflict to a full scale unconstitutional war came about because of the Gulf of Tonkien affair, which never really happened.

    and that the purveyors of war machines made a pile of money from the war.

    Yes, I remember that one well.
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    Re: Is the world a better place without Saddam Hussein?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    No. It merely proves that Iraq has an open economy now.
    You may deny that US and British oil companies are back in Iraq for the first time since they were kicked out in 1973 if you wish, but the facts show different.
    Last edited by Catawba; 03-26-13 at 06:35 PM.
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    Re: Is the world a better place without Saddam Hussein?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    Even Al-Jazeera isn't buying what you're selling.

    Western oil firms remain as US exits Iraq - Features - Al Jazeera ...
    http://<a href="http://www.aljazeera...71641.html</a>
    Jan 7, 2012 – The end of the US military occupation does not mean Iraqis have full control of their oil. ... Dr Zalloum added that he believes western oil companies have .... has been summarily rejected by most countries, including all of Iraq's ...

    You better reread what you just linked because it doesn't make your case that the war wasn't about oil.
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    Re: Is the world a better place without Saddam Hussein?

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post

    I personally think members have answered the second half of that question.
    Its kind of a silly stand alone question as its pure fantasy.

    Of course you like result, but you don't get the result without the (considerable) cost. Trying to separate the result from the cost is a ridiculous endeavor.

    Would you like to go to Hawaii? Well, yes, if it doesn't cost me time and money (without trade-offs). Telling me I have to use vacation time and actually pay for the trip myself radically changes the question.

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    Re: Is the world a better place without Saddam Hussein?

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    You may want to read the article. And check out their home page. Keeping track is what they do.
    Keeping track? They just found another mass grave in 2012! You can't keep track of what you don't know.

    PressTV - Saddam-era mass grave unearthed in south Baghdad

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    Re: Is the world a better place without Saddam Hussein?

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    Keeping track? They just found another mass grave in 2012! You can't keep track of what you don't know.

    PressTV - Saddam-era mass grave unearthed in south Baghdad
    Valid point but not source. That's Iranian State.

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    Re: Is the world a better place without Saddam Hussein?

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    Keeping track? They just found another mass grave in 2012! You can't keep track of what you don't know.

    PressTV - Saddam-era mass grave unearthed in south Baghdad
    You make the same mistake many do. It's not when you fine it that matters in this debate, but when they were killed:

    The victims could also be Kurds, against whom Saddam waged military campaigns in the 1980s and 90s, and Shia Muslims who staged an uprising in 1991.

    This was when we were watching and doing nothing, and anytime near 2003. It was a very specific place and time

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