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    Re: Is the world a better place without Saddam Hussein?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bori View Post
    Do you think Bush knows what "Pax Americana" means? Actually, do think he knows what "comprehensive" means?
    I won't speculate. Good afternoon, Bori.
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    Re: Is the world a better place without Saddam Hussein?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    I may indeed. I believe the GWB administration sought to create a Middle East Pax Americana based in Iraq to enable a comprehensive Israeli-Palestinian peace agreement.


    That seems to have been the neocons plan.

    Didn't work out like they thought it would, eh?

    Instead it helped Iran and did nothing for Israel and the West.

    Israel was better off when Iraq was keeping Iran busy.

    Sometimes it's better to leave well enough alone.

    Hopefully someone learned something from the Bush mis-administration's failed adventure in Iraq.

    It has turned out about like I thought it would so far.


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    Re: Is the world a better place without Saddam Hussein?

    No.
    Saddam was the best choice in keeping Iraq safe and secure.

    since his murder Christians are fleeing the country in droves.

    the place is a hell hole..

    ask any Iraqi Christian on how Saddam treated them.

    his food tasters were only Christian.

    this was madness at it's height and it took a huge lie to the world to do it...

    look at what you have...
    bush promised cheaper gas to his people and they bought it...lol..

    you gotta love America...

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    Re: Is the world a better place without Saddam Hussein?

    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    Whether you can handle it or not, the truth is always the truth.
    wouldn't it be nice if we could always agree on what the truth is? even if "the truth is always the truth," finding or determining it is not always easy ...

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    Re: Is the world a better place without Saddam Hussein?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    I won't speculate. Good afternoon, Bori.
    I will ... he would have no idea what "pax" means, but I'll give him comprehensive ... fair enough? good day to you as well ...

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    Re: Is the world a better place without Saddam Hussein?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bori View Post
    I will ... he would have no idea what "pax" means, but I'll give him comprehensive ... fair enough? good day to you as well ...
    You would be quite surprised by GWB's intellectual depth and range. Regardless, the explanation fits the observed facts of the matter.
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    Re: Is the world a better place without Saddam Hussein?

    If there were another attack on the scale of 9/11, but this time it was Saddam's government responsible, would it have been worth it then?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bori View Post
    there was no credible evidence and I think a lot of folks who voted for the war did so because of political expediency ... people were afraid, and we're big on revenge as a country and wanted to do someting to someone ... many politicians, Dems among them, had no backbone on this one ... the issue is whether the administration concocted stuff to justify going in and the evidence suggests rather strongly that they did ... I think Hubris was well done, although I know that most conservatives will dismiss it outright regardless of the evidence ... the issue isn't whether Iraq is better off without him ... the issue is whether it was worth the cost. Can you imagine if we expended an equal number of lives and money on every head of state who their country would be better off without?

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    Re: Is the world a better place without Saddam Hussein?

    Quote Originally Posted by marywollstonecraft View Post
    actually ... its all true.

    The USA is a dangerous country.

    It has a habit of invading other countries which are no real threat to the USA.

    It is the only country on this planet to have ever used nuclear weapons.

    Which is one reason why some countries see having nukes as a good thing.

    and after the invasion of Afghanistan AND Iraq on either side of them ... how do you think Iran might have felt?
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    Re: Is the world a better place without Saddam Hussein?

    Quote Originally Posted by marywollstonecraft View Post
    I think you have a bit of a comprehension problem.

    when someone asks - Is the world a better place without Saddam Hussein? to say "no" is not the same thing as saying he made the world a better place.
    It is the same as saying the world is better with him. If you don't think so, then indeed, it's YOU who has the "comprehension problem" -- though that is plain enough with the inane posts you've made in this thread.

    In any case, the idea that it's not better without him, his death squads, his sons, his mass executions -- you're so wrapped up in anti-Bush and anti-American drivel that your head is twisted around several times.

    Haterz gonna hate, though, so I won't bother trying to change your mind on any of the nonsense. The radical seldom have any inclination to moderate themselves.
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    Re: Is the world a better place without Saddam Hussein?

    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    That seems to have been the neocons plan.

    Didn't work out like they thought it would, eh?

    Instead it helped Iran and did nothing for Israel and the West.

    Israel was better off when Iraq was keeping Iran busy.

    Sometimes it's better to leave well enough alone.

    Hopefully someone learned something from the Bush mis-administration's failed adventure in Iraq.

    It has turned out about like I thought it would so far.


    "The best laid schemes of Mice and Men
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    And leave us nothing but grief and pain,
    for promised joy."
    ~ Robert Burns, To a Mouse, (Poem, November, 1785)

    Absolutely wrong! The OIL is in the Western Energy Distribution Network, so if Big Money Energy Corporations had a large monetary push and media agenda to initiate the war and bring the OIL into western distribution networks, they have succeeded handsomely. They also made the first profits because Wars run on energy and they were the USA's best fuel providers. Now they drill, refine, transport, retail the forbidden fruits that were denied by Saddam. Of course, you have to presume that the USA is about business and war is good business for this to make any sense. Check those big campaign donations.

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