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    Re: Is the world a better place without Saddam Hussein?

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter King View Post
    Is the pope a catholic?

    Don't ask these kinds of self answering questions, of course removing Saddam Hussein from this world is a good thing. But I am not sure that good thing was worth the lives of the more than 100,000 dead Iraqi's, the almost 4,800 dead coalition troops or the hundreds of thousands of injured people.

    I think it is wonderful that the world is rid of Hussein but I think the US rushed the world into a war that was ill planned, ill conceived and poorly executed. And then I am not really talking about the role of the troops in the fight. They did their job as excellently as they do all their jobs. It was all that happened after the fighting itself stopped that is the big issue.

    And then there is also the reasons for going into this war. The war was started on bad intelligence if you look at the issue with your most pro-G.W. Bush-glasses as possible and if you do not wear those kinds of glasses one might be a little bit or a lot more negative as to why this war was started and how G.W. Bush and his neo-cons played their parts in this war.
    the question wasn't whether it was a good thing ... it was whether the world is better off.

    the invasion has made the wold less safe for many people, so no ... the world is NOT better off.
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    Re: Is the world a better place without Saddam Hussein?

    Quote Originally Posted by marywollstonecraft View Post
    ... people who are well informed?
    Oh, so to be "well-informed" is to think that Saddam Hussein made the world a better place? This is what you're saying, and my god, it's asinine.
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    Re: Is the world a better place without Saddam Hussein?

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    Rushed? 17 unscrs (the last of which promised ~"dire" ~"any" or some such consequences), decades of chem use, invasions and starvation. Ill planned? As you note below, and I specify, it's not like coulda planned to find a social capital desert. Conceived? Iraq was the best country to nation build for a number of reasons, oil giving it the power to stand on its own being a significant one. Executed? As you note below, it was a big crap sandwich. But that's not our fault, Saddam killed every half-brain that dared speak freely.



    Right. We booted Baath and there was nothing left - oops. Ok, our bad but we didn't know.



    200k Kurds - Genocide
    50k Marsh Arabs - Genocide
    500k Iraqis - Iran War
    400k children - Selling food-for-oil products, this occured just prior to invasion

    Faking a WMD program to deter Iran, institutionalized rape, FGM, honor killings and a general lack of human rights for women.

    Saddam was a horrible monster that left nothing behind, he burned it all. We were too late. Perhaps in a generation or two, Iraq will be on its feet and verging on developed country status, it has the resources to do so and now it has the chance.


    ps. Not voting because I don't like the framing.
    yes rushed.

    Hans Blix asked for more time, and if WMDs were the issue - they should have given it to him.
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    Re: Is the world a better place without Saddam Hussein?

    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    Are probably not quite as bad as those who try to rewrite it, as many on these forums try to do.
    Oh, yeah... exciting! The nebulous badguys. Ooooohhhh... Who are they?!

    Spare us the victim routine. Shouldn't you be investigating 9/11?

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    Re: Is the world a better place without Saddam Hussein?

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    Maybe if that moron had complied with the international community, he wouldn't have made himself into a target, and after 9-1-1 everyone was a bit paranoid.
    so what you are saying is that the decision was based on emotion, not reason?

    That is appalling.
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    Re: Is the world a better place without Saddam Hussein?

    Quote Originally Posted by marywollstonecraft View Post
    Hans Blix asked for more time, and if WMDs were the issue - they should have given it to him.
    How many years were we gonna let Hans Solo search? It had been many and, as history notes, Saddam was faking a WMD program.

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    Re: Is the world a better place without Saddam Hussein?

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter King View Post
    That is real funny, the genocide of the Shiite's living in the Marsh was revenge for the uprising president Bush urged them to instigate but he was not able to protect or defend them when Saddam, who was left most of his power in his own land murdered them by the thousands. The Iraqi chemical and biological weapons was only possible with the help of Germany, France and to some extent the US and many other countries including the Netherlands.

    Where was all the indignation for the war against Iran and all the people that died from that war? It wasn't from the US or much of Europe.

    Saddam was a monster, but a monster that both the Communists and we from the West created and kept in power with weapons, technology and support.
    not to mention that the US was one among several nations supplying weapons TO BOTH SIDES in the Iran/Iraq conflict.
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    Re: Is the world a better place without Saddam Hussein?

    Quote Originally Posted by marywollstonecraft View Post
    not to mention that the US was one among several nations supplying weapons TO BOTH SIDES in the Iran/Iraq conflict.
    And we slaughtered Native Americans. And we had slaves!

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    Re: Is the world a better place without Saddam Hussein?

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    This is so devoid of anything approaching sense it boggles the mind.
    actually ... its all true.

    The USA is a dangerous country.

    It has a habit of invading other countries which are no real threat to the USA.

    It is the only country on this planet to have ever used nuclear weapons.

    Which is one reason why some countries see having nukes as a good thing.

    and after the invasion of Afghanistan AND Iraq on either side of them ... how do you think Iran might have felt?
    Every political good carried to the extreme must be productive of evil.

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    Re: Is the world a better place without Saddam Hussein?

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    And we slaughtered Native Americans. And we had slaves!
    Yet some of us have demonstrated the hubris to think we are morally superior to the people in the middle east.
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