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    Re: Is the world a better place without Saddam Hussein?

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    Maybe if that moron had complied with the international community, he wouldn't have made himself into a target, and after 9-1-1 everyone was a bit paranoid.
    Oh so you think the U.N. should have authority over countries. Interesting.

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    Re: Is the world a better place without Saddam Hussein?

    Quote Originally Posted by captainawesome View Post
    Oh so you think the U.N. should have authority over countries. Interesting.
    He threatened that he had WMDs. This country was an instigator. A known rogue nation that attacked other nations and committed GENOCIDE. What exactly is your stance on this anyway?

    Saddam Hussein's Defiance of United Nations Resolutions

    Saddam Hussein has repeatedly violated sixteen United Nations Security Council Resolutions (UNSCRs) designed to ensure that Iraq does not pose a threat to international peace and security. In addition to these repeated violations, he has tried, over the past decade, to circumvent UN economic sanctions against Iraq, which are reflected in a number of other resolutions. As noted in the resolutions, Saddam Hussein was required to fulfill many obligations beyond the withdrawal of Iraqi forces from Kuwait. Specifically, Saddam Hussein was required to, among other things: allow international weapons inspectors to oversee the destruction of his weapons of mass destruction; not develop new weapons of mass destruction; destroy all of his ballistic missiles with a range greater than 150 kilometers; stop support for terrorism and prevent terrorist organizations from operating within Iraq; help account for missing Kuwaitis and other individuals; return stolen Kuwaiti property and bear financial liability for damage from the Gulf War; and he was required to end his repression of the Iraqi people. Saddam Hussein has repeatedly violated each of the following resolutions:

    UNSCR 678 - November 29, 1990

    Iraq must comply fully with UNSCR 660 (regarding Iraq's illegal invasion of Kuwait) "and all subsequent relevant resolutions."
    Authorizes UN Member States "to use all necessary means to uphold and implement resolution 660 and all subsequent relevant resolutions and to restore international peace and security in the area."
    UNSCR 686 - March 2, 1991

    Iraq must release prisoners detained during the Gulf War.
    Iraq must return Kuwaiti property seized during the Gulf War.
    Iraq must accept liability under international law for damages from its illegal invasion of Kuwait.

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    Re: Is the world a better place without Saddam Hussein?

    Quote Originally Posted by captainawesome View Post
    Oh so you think the U.N. should have authority over countries. Interesting.
    Countries with twice genocidal dictators? Yes. The no-fly zone was needed to prevent further genocide.

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    Re: Is the world a better place without Saddam Hussein?

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    Rushed? 17 unscrs (the last of which promised ~"dire" ~"any" or some such consequences), decades of chem use, invasions and starvation. Ill planned? As you note below, and I specify, it's not like coulda planned to find a social capital desert. Conceived? Iraq was the best country to nation build for a number of reasons, oil giving it the power to stand on its own being a significant one. Executed? As you note below, it was a big crap sandwich. But that's not our fault, Saddam killed every half-brain that dared speak freely.



    Right. We booted Baath and there was nothing left - oops. Ok, our bad but we didn't know.



    200k Kurds - Genocide
    50k MArsh Arabs - Genocide
    500k Iraqis - Iran War
    400k children - Selling food-for-oil products, this occured just prior to invasion

    Faking a WMD program to deter Iran, institutionalized rape, FGM, honor killings and a general lack of human rights for women.

    Saddam was a horrible monster who left nothing behind, he burned it all. We were too late. Perhaps in a generation or two, Iraq will be on its feet and verging on developed country status, it has the resources to do so and now it has the chance.
    That is real funny, the genocide of the Shiite's living in the Marsh was revenge for the uprising president Bush urged them to instigate but he was not able to protect or defend them when Saddam, who was left most of his power in his own land murdered them by the thousands. The Iraqi chemical and biological weapons was only possible with the help of Germany, France and to some extent the US and many other countries including the Netherlands.

    Where was all the indignation for the war against Iran and all the people that died from that war? It wasn't from the US or much of Europe.

    Saddam was a monster, but a monster that both the Communists and we from the West created and kept in power with weapons, technology and support.
    Former military man (and now babysitter of Donald Trump) John Kelly, is a big loud lying empty barrel!

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    Re: Is the world a better place without Saddam Hussein?

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    Countries with twice genocidal dictators? Yes. The no-fly zone was needed to prevent further genocide.
    We killed the Indians and owned slaves and are the only nation to use nukes. If the U.N passes a law against us you will agree they have authority?

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    Re: Is the world a better place without Saddam Hussein?

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter King View Post
    That is real funny, the genocide of the Shiite's living in the Marsh was revenge for the uprising president Bush urged them to instigate but he was not able to protect or defend them when Saddam, who was left most of his power in his own land murdered them by the millions.
    Oh yes, so funny. Genocide is always a hoot, especially when blaming it on the US.

    The Iraqi chemical and biological weapons was only possible with the help of Germany, France and to some extent the US and many other countries including the Netherlands.
    Botulism vaccine was needed or all the cows in Iraq die. Saddam weaponized it and let the cows die. That was the only US government involvment.

    Where was all the indignation for the war against Iran and all the people that died from that war? It wasn't from the US or much of Europe.
    You're claiming that no one cared so it doesn't count?

    Saddam was a monster, but a monster that both the Communists and we from the West created and kept in power with weapons, technology and support.
    Yeah, well, we changed policy. No more destabilization, that didn't work. Now we nation build.

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    Re: Is the world a better place without Saddam Hussein?

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter King View Post
    That is real funny, the genocide of the Shiite's living in the Marsh was revenge for the uprising president Bush urged them to instigate but he was not able to protect or defend them when Saddam, who was left most of his power in his own land murdered them by the thousands. The Iraqi chemical and biological weapons was only possible with the help of Germany, France and to some extent the US and many other countries including the Netherlands.

    Where was all the indignation for the war against Iran and all the people that died from that war? It wasn't from the US or much of Europe.

    Saddam was a monster, but a monster that both the Communists and we from the West created and kept in power with weapons, technology and support.
    That's because, like others have said, we thought he could keep that country under control. However, he was very defiant and a basically nothing but a bully. What would your suggestion be? Is peace important to you?

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    Re: Is the world a better place without Saddam Hussein?

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    I'm sure there would bitching about that too.


    No doubt.

    Some people would complain if they were hung with a new rope.

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    Re: Is the world a better place without Saddam Hussein?

    Quote Originally Posted by captainawesome View Post
    We killed the Indians and owned slaves and are the only nation to use nukes. If the U.N passes a law against us you will agree they have authority?
    This is so irrelevant it's actually amusing.

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    Re: Is the world a better place without Saddam Hussein?

    Quote Originally Posted by captainawesome View Post
    We killed the Indians and owned slaves and are the only nation to use nukes. If the U.N passes a law against us you will agree they have authority?
    Here we go, kids!

    Indians, a-bombs and Vietnam, oh my!

    We all took history in elementary school, spare us.

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