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    Re: Is the world a better place without Saddam Hussein?

    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    So what do you 'think' that the USA accomplished in Iraq, other than helping Iran?

    You may not think that the death of so many innocent Iraqi's as a consequence of G.W. Bush's decision (He was the 'decider'.) to attack Iraq is no big thing, but I guarantee you that those peoples family and tribe have a totally different view.

    They are looking for some payback, they won't forget and they'll never forgive. This is a blood debt, and they are looking for some payback.

    The USA is less safe because of Bush's war in Iraq.

    Think about it.
    Did I say it was no big thing? No, I did not. I said that Iraq is better off without Saddam and that progress there is going to take TIME.

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    Re: Is the world a better place without Saddam Hussein?

    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    No, you haven't, you're still alive.

    If you pay attention you'll hear a lot more.
    How philosophical.

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    Re: Is the world a better place without Saddam Hussein?

    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    Could the Iraqis have killed him if the USA had shipped him to Gitmo?

    I don't believe.

    The USA abdicated it's responsibility, no big deal, just another war crime.



    "Let he who is without sin cast the first stone." ~ Jesus H. Christ
    I'm sure there would bitching about that too.

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    Re: Is the world a better place without Saddam Hussein?

    No it is not better.

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    Re: Is the world a better place without Saddam Hussein?

    Quote Originally Posted by marywollstonecraft View Post
    this was not happening before the invasion. its all very well for americans to say its the cost of the war, but don't expect the millions of Iraqis who have lost family members, been injured, been made refugees SINCE the war to see you as the people who saved them from a tyrant.
    I've read that they are happy that he's gone, except of course his insurgent supporters. Same thing would be happening if the Iraqis themselves took him out. His own party members would wage attacks. That is just how things are over there, and it's going to take a lot of time for things to settle down. I'm hopeful that eventually things will work out over there eventually. If you want to continue with bitterness over the GWB era, and be hopeless, then that's fine.

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    Re: Is the world a better place without Saddam Hussein?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    That's OK. There are a lot of repressive regimes not friendly to us.


    I have always acknowledged that there are bad guys on both sides.

    But I don't believe that justifies the USA using an/or creating these regimes.

    "Timmy did it too" has never been an excuse for bad behavior. Check with your mother on this.

    The USA was happy to use Saddam to restrain Iran for a while.Is the world a better place without Saddam Hussein?-handshake300-jpg

    Yes, that's Rumsfeld shaking hands with Saddam in happier days for the two of them.

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    Re: Is the world a better place without Saddam Hussein?

    Quote Originally Posted by Medusa View Post
    who wanted it ?

    did they invite you to their country *
    The Iraqis wanted him. That's why we handed him over to them, and they executed him.

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    Re: Is the world a better place without Saddam Hussein?

    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    I have always acknowledged that there are bad guys on both sides.

    But I don't believe that justifies the USA using an/or creating these regimes.

    "Timmy did it too" has never been an excuse for bad behavior. Check with your mother on this.

    The USA was happy to use Saddam to restrain Iran for a while.Is the world a better place without Saddam Hussein?-handshake300-jpg

    Yes, that's Rumsfeld shaking hands with Saddam in happier days for the two of them.
    Yes, sometimes you have to keep your enemies close. Also, in this world you have to sometimes deal with less than savory people for the greater good.

    This isn't Candy Land you know.

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    Re: Is the world a better place without Saddam Hussein?

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter King View Post
    I think the US rushed the world into a war that was ill planned, ill conceived and poorly executed.
    Rushed? 17 unscrs (the last of which promised ~"dire" ~"any" or some such consequences), decades of chem use, invasions and starvation. Ill planned? As you note below, and I specify, it's not like coulda planned to find a social capital desert. Conceived? Iraq was the best country to nation build for a number of reasons, oil giving it the power to stand on its own being a significant one. Executed? As you note below, it was a big crap sandwich. But that's not our fault, Saddam killed every half-brain that dared speak freely.

    It was all that happened after the fighting itself stopped that is the big issue.
    Right. We booted Baath and there was nothing left - oops. Ok, our bad but we didn't know.

    And then there is also the reasons for going into this war.
    200k Kurds - Genocide
    50k Marsh Arabs - Genocide
    500k Iraqis - Iran War
    400k children - Selling food-for-oil products, this occured just prior to invasion

    Faking a WMD program to deter Iran, institutionalized rape, FGM, honor killings and a general lack of human rights for women.

    Saddam was a horrible monster that left nothing behind, he burned it all. We were too late. Perhaps in a generation or two, Iraq will be on its feet and verging on developed country status, it has the resources to do so and now it has the chance.


    ps. Not voting because I don't like the framing.
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    Re: Is the world a better place without Saddam Hussein?

    Maybe if that moron had complied with the international community, he wouldn't have made himself into a target, and after 9-1-1 everyone was a bit paranoid.

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