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    Re: Is the world a better place without Saddam Hussein?

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    Global is worse than Saddam?
    certainly!!!!!

    but please dont respond to my questions with other questions
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    Re: Is the world a better place without Saddam Hussein?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    Hmmm. The Holocaust was in the 20th century. The Iraq war was in the 21st. To which century do you refer? What about collectivization in the USSR? China's Great Leap Forward? China's Cultural Revolution? The Cambodian killing fields?
    l usually cant communicate with most of the liberitarians ,we speak different languages .
    l refer to bosnia.
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    Re: Is the world a better place without Saddam Hussein?

    Quote Originally Posted by Medusa View Post
    certainly!!!!!

    but please dont respond to my questions with other questions
    But you never gave an example of the fake democrats/democracies that you were talking about. And I don't know what "globals!" are.

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    Re: Is the world a better place without Saddam Hussein?

    Who the hell would vote "no"? It doesn't make you a Bush supporter if you think the world is better off without him.
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    Re: Is the world a better place without Saddam Hussein?

    Quote Originally Posted by Medusa View Post
    l usually cant communicate with most of the liberitarians ,we speak different languages .
    l refer to bosnia.
    Bosnia was grim. I've been there. However, in the gruesome arithmetic of horrors it just doesn't measure up to the greatest crimes of the 20th century because there weren't enough available victims.
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    Re: Is the world a better place without Saddam Hussein?

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    Medusa, he was found guilty of crimes against humanity and executed by his own people. We only turned him over to them. He was a terrible rotten person Medusa.

    Just SOME of Saddam's crimes.

    The War Crimes of Saddam Hussein - War Crimes of Saddam Hussein

    Ethnic Cleansing:

    The two dominant ethnicities of Iraq have traditionally been Arabs in south and central Iraq, and Kurds in the north and northeast, particularly along the Iranian border. Hussein long viewed ethnic Kurds as a long-term threat to Iraq's survival, and the oppression and extermination of the Kurds was one of his administration's highest priorities.
    Religious Persecution:

    The Baath Party was dominated by Sunni Muslims, who made up only about one-third of Iraq's general population; the other two-thirds was made up of Shiite Muslims, Shiism also happening to be the official religion of Iran. Throughout Hussein's tenure, and especially during the Iran-Iraq War (1980-1988), he saw the marginalization and eventual elimination of Shiism as a necessary goal in the Arabization process, by which Iraq would purge itself of all perceived Iranian influence.
    The Dujail Massacre of 1982:

    In July of 1982, several Shiite militants attempted to assassinate Saddam Hussein while he was riding through the city. Hussein responded by ordering the slaughter of some 148 residents, including dozens of children. This is the war crime with which Saddam Hussein was formally charged, and for which he was executed.
    The Barzani Clan Abductions of 1983:

    Masoud Barzani led the Kurdistan Democratic Party (KDP), an ethnic Kurdish revolutionary group fighting Baathist oppression. After Barzani cast his lot with the Iranians in the Iran-Iraq War, Hussein had some 8,000 members of Barzani's clan, including hundreds of women and children, abducted. It is assumed that most were slaughtered; thousands have been discovered in mass graves in southern Iraq.
    The al-Anfal Campaign:

    The worst human rights abuses of Hussein's tenure took place during the genocidal al-Anfal Campaign (1986-1989), in which Hussein's administration called for the extermination of every living thing--human or animal--in certain regions of the Kurdish north. All told, some 182,000 people--men, women, and children--were slaughtered, many through use of chemical weapons. The Halabja poison gas massacre of 1988 alone killed over 5,000 people. Hussein later blamed the attacks on the Iranians, and the Reagan administration, which supported Iraq in the Iran-Iraq War, helped promote this cover story.
    neither the invasion nor the court was legal ,chris




    l am not a fan of saddam and dont support any violence used on people but İ am trying to explain why the other horrible monsters are never mentioned .
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    Re: Is the world a better place without Saddam Hussein?

    Is the pope a catholic?

    Don't ask these kinds of self answering questions, of course removing Saddam Hussein from this world is a good thing. But I am not sure that good thing was worth the lives of the more than 100,000 dead Iraqi's, the almost 4,800 dead coalition troops or the hundreds of thousands of injured people.

    I think it is wonderful that the world is rid of Hussein but I think the US rushed the world into a war that was ill planned, ill conceived and poorly executed. And then I am not really talking about the role of the troops in the fight. They did their job as excellently as they do all their jobs. It was all that happened after the fighting itself stopped that is the big issue.

    And then there is also the reasons for going into this war. The war was started on bad intelligence if you look at the issue with your most pro-G.W. Bush-glasses as possible and if you do not wear those kinds of glasses one might be a little bit or a lot more negative as to why this war was started and how G.W. Bush and his neo-cons played their parts in this war.
    Former military man (and now babysitter of Donald Trump) John Kelly, is a big loud lying empty barrel!

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    Re: Is the world a better place without Saddam Hussein?

    Quote Originally Posted by Medusa View Post
    neither the invasion nor the court was legal ,chris
    That's not our problem. We handed him over to them, and they did what they did to him. Everyone complains when we get involved, and then they complain when we don't too. Too bad, we can't please everyone all the time.




    l am not a fan of saddam and dont support any violence used on people but İ am trying to explain why the other horrible monsters are never mentioned .
    Well, this thread is about Iraq. What other horrible monsters are you talking about?

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    Re: Is the world a better place without Saddam Hussein?

    Quote Originally Posted by DaveFagan View Post
    Even Iraqi Body Count, considered about as reliable as GWShiiteForBrains WMD claims, acknowledges 123,000 killed and states the figure is probably 2-3 times that if you include the citizens killed by causing instability in Iraq. We caused that instability. Cost of war=Cost of lies about WMD.
    And the body count from Saddam is STILL not known. They'll probably still be finding mass graves for years to come. How can you think that anyone would be better off with a person like that in charge?

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    Re: Is the world a better place without Saddam Hussein?

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    That's not our problem. We handed him over to them, and they did what they did to him. Everyone complains when we get involved, and then they complain when we don't too. Too bad, we can't please everyone all the time.






    Well, this thread is about Iraq. What other horrible monsters are you talking about?
    who wanted it ?

    did they invite you to their country *
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