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Is the world a better place without Saddam Hussein?

Is the world a better place without Saddam Hussein?

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Navy Pride said:
On the anniversary of the Iraq war the question begs to be asked.
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I think the better question to ask is "Is the US in a better position on the world stage because we did away with Saddam Hussein on false pretenses?"
 
zstep18 said:
Let's go ahead and get every bad guy in the world!

There were bigger fish to fry then Saddam. Add to that our governments deception and cover ups as to the reason we went to war makes the the whole situation just a tad worse.

But, you're use of "Saddam supporters" to anyone who said that the world was not a better place without Saddam is classic? Did Saddam deserve thousands of Americans dead, thousands and thousands of civilians dead, and trillions of dollars?

No.
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if we can do it on the cheap, i'm all for taking out tyrants all over the world.... the bigger the fish, the better.

Saddam deserved nothing but his death... and thankfully, he lived long enough to know his sons were taken out too...I hope it was painful for him.
 
Thrilla said:
if we can do it on the cheap, i'm all for taking out tyrants all over the world.... the bigger the fish, the better.

Saddam deserved nothing but his death... and thankfully, he lived long enough to know his sons were taken out too...I hope it was painful for him.
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Was Saddam worth thousands of Americans dead, thousands and thousands of civilians dead, and trillions in dollars spent?
 
Thrilla said:
well, that took some mental gymnastics... considering that is not the question posed in this thread.

go back and read the poll question...

here, I'll help you out....

"Is the world a better place without Saddam Hussein?"

your answer... No.
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I still don't think the world is better off with him gone, He was the enemy of our enemy (Iran) and now that Saddam is gone Iran has become more belligerent,
 
Thrilla said:
if we can do it on the cheap, i'm all for taking out tyrants all over the world.... the bigger the fish, the better.

Saddam deserved nothing but his death... and thankfully, he lived long enough to know his sons were taken out too...I hope it was painful for him.
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The Bush administration said it would be cheap, in fact somebody said the oil wold pay for it.
 
pbrauer said:
I still don't think the world is better off with him gone, He was the enemy of our enemy (Iran) and now that Saddam is gone Iran has become more belligerent,
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:2rofll: Perhaps you should do some research on Ayatollah Khomeini.......
 
Bonzai said:
The idea that removing Saddam would somehow bring about the "blooming of a 1000 flowers" of democracy was pollyannish in the best fantasy, psychotically delusional in reality...............
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yeah, I guess you are right.. Saddam's totalitarian tyranny was better.
 
Cephus said:
Sure. Is it better off having sacrificed thousands upon thousands of lives and billions trillions of dollars? Not so much.
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I edited your message for accuracy.
 
The world is a better place when we get rid of monsters like Saddam. Having said that I am beginning to wonder about the Arab world and if they need monsters to keep some form of order in that culture. I truly hate saying that but I honestly wonder.
 
Thrilla said:
yeah, I guess you are right.. Saddam's totalitarian tyranny was better.
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You might have a point, except that the US and Israel were more than comfortable with Saddam when he was fighting Iran.............Sounds like a case of "even the best laid plans can go awry".......................
 
sawyerloggingon said:
The world is a better place when we get rid of monsters like Saddam. Having said that I am beginning to wonder about the Arab world and if they need monsters to keep some form of order in that culture. I truly hate saying that but I honestly wonder.
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That sounds sensible, but what opportunities or possible world improvements have been squelched by the tens of thousands of dead. Americans, Iraqis, Brits, etal. Your view must presume that all those lives would have been worthless. Not likely. It is opportunity lost forever, for lies.
 
Bonzai said:
You might have a point, except that the US and Israel were more than comfortable with Saddam when he was fighting Iran.............Sounds like a case of "even the best laid plans can go awry".......................
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No one was ever comfortable with Saddam, but you use the tools that are available. Good evening, Bonz.:2wave:
 
pbrauer said:
I still don't think the world is better off with him gone, He was the enemy of our enemy (Iran) and now that Saddam is gone Iran has become more belligerent,
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yeah,well, ya see.. I have a problem with watching as a people subjugated, oppressed, and slaughtered... even if their murderous leader was the enemy of another enemy.
the very worst thing about this sort of stuff is that we once were "friendly"with the tyrant....rummy would have gone up a few notches in my book if he stabbed Saddam in the neck instead of shaking his hand.

(I understand realpolitik, but I have this extreme aversion to tyrants that tends to crowd out politics)
 
Bonzai said:
You might have a point, except that the US and Israel were more than comfortable with Saddam when he was fighting Iran.............Sounds like a case of "even the best laid plans can go awry".......................
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And remember, Bush Sr. stopped the war short of destroying Saddam's Republican Guard and going after him as he still wanted a weaken Iraq to be able to challenge Iran. Talk about the best laid plans.
 
zstep18 said:
Was Saddam worth thousands of Americans dead, thousands and thousands of civilians dead, and trillions in dollars spent?
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absolutely not.

he was worth about 4 bucks.... coincidentally, that's the price of a single .50 bmg round.
 
Perotista said:
And remember, Bush Sr. stopped the war short of destroying Saddam's Republican Guard and going after him as he still wanted a weaken Iraq to be able to challenge Iran. Talk about the best laid plans.
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The Saudis were very interested in keeping Saddam in play so long as they had US protection. They wanted Saddam as a Sunni counterweight to Shia Iran. Good evening, Pero.:2wave:
 
Jack Hays said:
The Saudis were very interested in keeping Saddam in play so long as they had US protection. They wanted Saddam as a Sunni counterweight to Shia Iran. Good evening, Pero.:2wave:
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Howdy Jack, that too is true.
 
Jack Hays said:
No one was ever comfortable with Saddam, but you use the tools that are available. Good evening, Bonz.:2wave:
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Good evening. I have a feeling this topic is suddenly current because we're entering the run up to the war with Iran...........This is all beginning to sound like the "Butcher of Bagdad" BS.....................
 
Bonzai said:
Good evening. I have a feeling this topic is suddenly current because we're entering the run up to the war with Iran...........This is all beginning to sound like the "Butcher of Bagdad" BS.....................
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Well, I think it's more likely related to the 10th anniversary of the start of the Iraq war.:peace
 
Thrilla said:
absolutely not.

he was worth about 4 bucks.... coincidentally, that's the price of a single .50 bmg round.
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So, the United States assassinates Saddam. Then what?

All the problems go away?
 
Jack Hays said:
Well, I think it's more likely related to the 10th anniversary of the start of the Iraq war.:peace
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I think our analysis here is more indepth than anything on the news............It's a run up and the waters are being tested-------Note the results of our resident survey.................
 
Bonzai said:
I think our analysis here is more indepth than anything on the news............It's a run up and the waters are being tested-------Note the results of our resident survey.................
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I doubt very, very seriously that there will be war with Iran, for the simple reason that the task is beyond our strength.:cool:
 
zstep18 said:
So, the United States assassinates Saddam. Then what?

All the problems go away?
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or course all problem don't go away.....a .50BMG is a big ass bullet, but it's not a silver bullet.

don't bother trying to convince me that tyranny is preferable... it won't work.
 
Jack Hays said:
I doubt very, very seriously that there will be war with Iran, for the simple reason that the task is beyond our strength.:cool:
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Many people think the neocons and the Evangelical right have been vanquished, I'm not one of them....................
 
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