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    Re: Is the world a better place without Saddam Hussein?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    The currency chosen by Saddam to trade oil could never be a concern. The costs of complicating his transactions would have been his.
    Right it would...the underlying thing is when countries start to get off the dollar in trading...it causes inflation to a degree. World Reserve status for the dollar is all that is saving us from hyperinflation. Our government will not allow a country like Iraq, Libya, or Iran to get off the dollar without extreme resistance. (Iran has a few major complications in Russia and China)
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    Re: Is the world a better place without Saddam Hussein?

    Quote Originally Posted by zstep18 View Post
    Was Saddam worth thousands of Americans dead, thousands and thousands of civilians dead, and trillions in dollars spent?
    We have now plenty of experience showing that taking down dictators usually has unintended consequences, especially when it is done by outsiders. Often these dictators have effectively prevented or limited sectarian violence, which can be worse than the dictatorship. The people of the country should be the ones making these decisions, not outsiders, since they will be the ones experiencing the consequences and best equipped to deal with them.

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    Re: Is the world a better place without Saddam Hussein?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bonzai View Post
    One does wonder why we were never let in on the fact that Iraq was just some typical Muslim hotbed of hot air being kept in check by "The Butcher of Bagdad"..................
    Because, my personal opinion only, their aims had little to do with Iraq per se.
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    Re: Is the world a better place without Saddam Hussein?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    Do not mistake my position. I do not claim that Iraq posed any threat. I believe that the decision to invade preceded the WMD intelligence; it did not follow it. Nonetheless, there is zero evidence to support the assertion that the war was to secure Iraq's oil. The orders to secure the oil facilities were to protect Iraq's financial capacity to rebuild, and prevent environmental degradation that would endanger US troops. At no time during our long occupation did the US government act to direct Iraqi oil to US companies.
    Poppycock I've just showed you the evidence. And no one to date has shown any evidence that Iraq was a threat. Most of the world knows the war was about oil. Only a few diehards still think it was because Iraq was a threat.

    Getting big oil back in Iraq for the first time since 1973 was the mission, and we succeeded.
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    Re: Is the world a better place without Saddam Hussein?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    Which means nothing in regard to Iraq war aims.
    You might be correct, but then again you might be wrong. You've got to admit, it looked suspicious.

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    Re: Is the world a better place without Saddam Hussein?

    Quote Originally Posted by AreteCourage View Post
    Right it would...the underlying thing is when countries start to get off the dollar in trading...it causes inflation to a degree. World Reserve status for the dollar is all that is saving us from hyperinflation. Our government will not allow a country like Iraq, Libya, or Iran to get off the dollar without extreme resistance. (Iran has a few major complications in Russia and China)
    Actually, the US need not lift a finger. All the countries that holds billions of dollars of dollar-denominated assets do the heavy lifting for us.
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    Re: Is the world a better place without Saddam Hussein?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    Because, my personal opinion only, their aims had little to do with Iraq per se.
    Well, I'm still sticking with the theory that the Evangelicals were hoping to set off Armageddon and the Neocons were using them to further the aims of the Zionist extreme in Israel......................

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    Re: Is the world a better place without Saddam Hussein?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Poppycock I've just showed you the evidence. And no one to date has shown any evidence that Iraq was a threat. Most of the world knows the war was about oil. Only a few diehards still think it was because Iraq was a threat.

    Getting big oil back in Iraq for the first time since 1973 was the mission, and we succeeded.
    You showed nothing. I do not claim Iraq was a threat. The war had other aims, in my view. If you think "Big Oil" profited, please identify the US oil companies that are now prominent in Iraq.
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    Re: Is the world a better place without Saddam Hussein?

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    You might be correct, but then again you might be wrong. You've got to admit, it looked suspicious.
    No. It looks like due diligence.
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    Re: Is the world a better place without Saddam Hussein?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bonzai View Post
    Well, I'm still sticking with the theory that the Evangelicals were hoping to set off Armageddon and the Neocons were using them to further the aims of the Zionist extreme in Israel......................
    Well, you just carry on.
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