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    Re: Is the world a better place without Saddam Hussein?

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    No. Read what I linked for you. Read it carefully. Also, as noted already, Germany was actually capable if doing something. Saddam and Iraq were not.

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    Re: Is the world a better place without Saddam Hussein?

    Quote Originally Posted by JC Callender View Post
    Which matters why? Exactly?

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    Re: Is the world a better place without Saddam Hussein?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    I make no claim that the Iraqis asked for anything. Nor do I claim to determine what they want. I merely offer my view that they are better off. The Shia and Kurds never, ever, had a chance. I'm sure you can point out the passage(s) in "Strategic Challenges for the 21st Century" that call for war with Iraq over oil. Please share.
    How are the Iraqis better off with hundreds of thousands of dead civilians, a million injured and maimed, another 5 million displaced, and their country blown apart, and a government as corrupt as the last.

    I posted that section above.

    Here you go:

    "The report, Strategic Energy Policy Challenges For The 21st Century, concludes: "The United States remains a prisoner of its energy dilemma. Iraq remains a de-stabilising influence to the flow of oil to international markets from the Middle East. Saddam Hussein has also demonstrated a willingness to threaten to use the oil weapon and to use his own export programme to manipulate oil markets. Therefore the US should conduct an immediate policy review toward Iraq including military, energy, economic and political/ diplomatic assessments."
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    Re: Is the world a better place without Saddam Hussein?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    How are the Iraqis better off with hundreds of thousands of dead civilians, a million injured and maimed, another 5 million displaced, and their country blown apart, and a government as corrupt as the last.

    I posted that section above.
    I predict the Iraq war will in the future seen as just the US and Israel handing Iraq to Iran on a silver platter.....................

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    Re: Is the world a better place without Saddam Hussein?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bonzai View Post
    I predict the Iraq war will in the future seen as just the US and Israel handing Iraq to Iran on a silver platter.....................
    Probably, Iraq is not near as resistant to influence from Iran now as it was under Saddam. And his bluff of WMD was working to keep Iran at bay, until some in the US claimed they suddenly believed his bluffing was real.
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    Re: Is the world a better place without Saddam Hussein?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Probably, Iraq is not near as resistant to influence from Iran now as it was under Saddam. And his bluff of WMD was working to keep Iran at bay, until some in the US claimed they suddenly believed his bluffing was real.
    The Iraq war did do us one favor------------It showed us quite plainly that the Evangelicals and the Neocons and their allies in Israel are living in THE ALTERNATIVE UNIVERSE...................................

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    Re: Is the world a better place without Saddam Hussein?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    How are the Iraqis better off with hundreds of thousands of dead civilians, a million injured and maimed, another 5 million displaced, and their country blown apart, and a government as corrupt as the last.

    I posted that section above.

    Here you go:

    "The report, Strategic Energy Policy Challenges For The 21st Century, concludes: "The United States remains a prisoner of its energy dilemma. Iraq remains a de-stabilising influence to the flow of oil to international markets from the Middle East. Saddam Hussein has also demonstrated a willingness to threaten to use the oil weapon and to use his own export programme to manipulate oil markets. Therefore the US should conduct an immediate policy review toward Iraq including military, energy, economic and political/ diplomatic assessments."
    Saddam Hussein also tortured and brutally murdered hundreds of thousands (and those are only those known about and able to be proven). It is believed that he killed many, many more though. I'll bet there are plenty of Iraqis who feel better off without him.

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    Re: Is the world a better place without Saddam Hussein?

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    Saddam Hussein also tortured and brutally murdered hundreds of thousands (and those are only those known about and able to be proven). It is believed that he killed many, many more though. I'll bet there are plenty of Iraqis who feel better off without him.
    He also used water is a weapon to subjugate and control people by forcing them into the areas he better controlled. He was not a good guy by any stretch of the imagination.

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    Re: Is the world a better place without Saddam Hussein?

    Quote Originally Posted by Fisher View Post
    He also used water is a weapon to subjugate and control people by forcing them into the areas he better controlled. He was not a good guy by any stretch of the imagination.
    No kidding. I also would like to see evidence from Cat that the current administration is as corrupt as the last. I'm not saying that it isn't corrupt because it will take years to fix that kind of thing, but I don't think the human rights violations are NEARLY what they were under Saddam's dictatorship.

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    Re: Is the world a better place without Saddam Hussein?

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    Saddam Hussein also tortured and brutally murdered hundreds of thousands (and those are only those known about and able to be proven). It is believed that he killed many, many more though. I'll bet there are plenty of Iraqis who feel better off without him.

    There are 4,300 GIs that don't feel better off without him. There are 600,000 (Lancet) Iraqis that don't feel better off without him. There are millions of refugees that don't feel better off without him. There are birth defects and increased cancers to make many living Iraqis not feel better off without him. We got the OIL.

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