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    Re: Is the world a better place without Saddam Hussein?

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post

    That is really funny coming from and Obama supporter the biggest spender in the history of this country.
    it's simple liberal logic NP. the less money we spend on the military, the more money he has to use to buy votes via entitlement programs. That's why the left hates military spending
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    Re: Is the world a better place without Saddam Hussein?

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post

    That is really funny coming from and Obama supporter the biggest spender in the history of this country.
    After inheriting a country headed for another great depression and two simultaneous wars, president has reduced the deficit. Who was the last GOP president to do that?
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    Re: Is the world a better place without Saddam Hussein?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    After inheriting a country headed for another great depression and two simultaneous wars, president has reduced the deficit. Who was the last GOP president to do that?
    must be that "new math" I keep hearing about

    Federal spending and federal deficits have both increased sharply under President Obama. In fiscal 2008, the last full fiscal year before Obama took office, the federal government spent $2.9716 trillion. In fiscal 2012, the federal government spent $3.538 trillion.

    In fiscal 2008, the federal deficit was $454.8 billion. In fiscal 2012, it was $1.2967 trillion. By this measure, President Obama did not reduce federal deficits by $2.5 trillion. He increased the annual deficit by $841.9 billion.
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    Re: Is the world a better place without Saddam Hussein?

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    must be that "new math" I keep hearing about
    Repeat After Me: Obama Cut the Deficit and Slowed Spending to Lowest Level in 50 Years

    "With the end of fiscal year 2012, the Congressional Budget Office announced the 2012 federal budget deficit: $1.1 trillion. Taken purely at face value, this number is enormous. Yet every Democrat, and especially the Obama campaign, ought to be telling anyone who will listen: Not only has the president cut the deficit by $312 billion during his first term (so far), but he's cut the deficit by $200 billion in the past year alone. And the CBO projected that the 2013 Obama budget, if enacted as is, would shrink the deficit to $977 billion -- a four year total of nearly $500 billion in deficit reduction."

    Bob Cesca: Repeat After Me: Obama Cut the Deficit and Slowed Spending to Lowest Level in 50 Years


    Now back to the topic of this thread:

    Iraqi Birth Defects Worse than Hiroshima

    "The United States may be finished dropping bombs on Iraq, but Iraqi bodies will be dealing with the consequences for generations to come in the form of birth defects, mysterious illnesses and skyrocketing cancer rates.

    Al Jazeera’s Dahr Jamail reports that contamination from U.S. weapons, particularly Depleted Uranium (DU) munitions, has led to an Iraqi health crisis of epic proportions. “[C]hildren being born with two heads, children born with only one eye, multiple tumours, disfiguring facial and body deformities, and complex nervous system problems,” are just some of the congenital birth defects being linked to military-related pollution.

    In certain Iraqi cities, the health consequences are significantly worse than those seen in the aftermath of the atomic bombing of Japan at the end of WWII."

    http://raniakhalek.com/2013/03/20/u-...han-hiroshima/
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    Re: Is the world a better place without Saddam Hussein?

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    it's simple liberal logic NP. the less money we spend on the military, the more money he has to use to buy votes via entitlement programs. That's why the left hates military spending
    Of course your right on the mark. I have never been able to figure why some of our left wing friends have such disdain for our military and want to make it 3rd rate.
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    Re: Is the world a better place without Saddam Hussein?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    After inheriting a country headed for another great depression and two simultaneous wars, president has reduced the deficit. Who was the last GOP president to do that?
    He came into office it was 10 trillion......after his first term it was 16 trillion...its not almost 17 trillion..........You can use smoke and mirrors all you want but the figures don't lie and Obama has spent more in 4 years then all the presidents before him combined.
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    Re: Is the world a better place without Saddam Hussein?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Repeat After Me: Obama Cut the Deficit and Slowed Spending to Lowest Level in 50 Years
    Obama, Sept. 23: First of all, Steve, I think it’s important to understand the context here. When I came into office, I inherited the biggest deficit in our history. And over the last four years, the deficit has gone up
    even Obama himself admits that the deficit has gone up. Of course, he blames it all on Bush.
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    Re: Is the world a better place without Saddam Hussein?

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    He came into office it was 10 trillion......after his first term it was 16 trillion...its not almost 17 trillion..........You can use smoke and mirrors all you want but the figures don't lie and Obama has spent more in 4 years then all the presidents before him combined.
    Why?

    In the last year of Bush's term...164 billion in Feb 2008 and another 750 billion in Oct 2008 for "stimulus" money and he gave 25 billion to the auto industry... because the economy crashed on his watch...

    Bush drove up the national debt from 5 trillion. Yes? No?

    And if you take 17 (current) - 10 (before) = 7

    So 7 isn't more than 10. Therefore the addition tot the national debt isn't more than all the previous presidents combined.

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    Re: Is the world a better place without Saddam Hussein?

    Quote Originally Posted by Removable Mind View Post
    Why?

    In the last year of Bush's term...164 billion in Feb 2008 and another 750 billion in Oct 2008 for "stimulus" money and he gave 25 billion to the auto industry... because the economy crashed on his watch...

    Bush drove up the national debt from 5 trillion. Yes? No?

    And if you take 17 (current) - 10 (before) = 7

    So 7 isn't more than 10. Therefore the addition tot the national debt isn't more than all the previous presidents combined.
    the accurate statement is that the national debt is more than all previous presidents Washington - Clinton combined.

    debt increased by 4.899 trillion during the two terms that Bush was in office
    debt increased by 4.939 trillion during the first term Obama was in office

    Obama has increased the debt more in one term than Bush did in two. Obama would have to reduce the debt by over 5 trillion in this second term to be responsible for less debt than Bush.
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    Re: Is the world a better place without Saddam Hussein?

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    the accurate statement is that the national debt is more than all previous presidents Washington - Clinton combined.

    debt increased by 4.899 trillion during the two terms that Bush was in office
    debt increased by 4.939 trillion during the first term Obama was in office

    Obama has increased the debt more in one term than Bush did in two. Obama would have to reduce the debt by over 5 trillion in this second term to be responsible for less debt than Bush.
    Alright...but why the 5 plus trillion added to the debt when we clearly know that by Oct 2008 the economy basically crashed?

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