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    Re: Is the world a better place without Saddam Hussein?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    I really don't think the Chinese want Mexico.

    and anyway, would Chinese troops across the street from San Diego be any worse than violent drug cartels in the same place? It could be an improvement overall. Anyway, I'll bet the Chinese could put a stop to the drug trade, and probably illegal crossings as well.
    The Chinese aren't about to invade Mexico. What I'm saying is that our government is likely to see something like that as a threat. As the Chinese would see American troops in NK.


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    Re: Is the world a better place without Saddam Hussein?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    Oil was no part of the decision to invade Iraq.
    Of course it did. I'm not going to sit here and say it was all for Halliburton's benefit or anything like that, but you better believe that the safe flow of oil in the Gulf was definitely in our interests, and probably part of the decision that was made.


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    Re: Is the world a better place without Saddam Hussein?

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    Of course it did. I'm not going to sit here and say it was all for Halliburton's benefit or anything like that, but you better believe that the safe flow of oil in the Gulf was definitely in our interests, and probably part of the decision that was made.

    That was the plan two years before we invaded Iraq, and here is the record of it -

    Strategic Energy Policies for the 21st Century
    Report of an Independent Task Force convened by Dick Cheney

    "As it is, national solutions alone cannot work. Politicians still speak of U.S. energy independence,while the United States is importing more than half of its oil supplies and may soon for the first time become reliant on sources outside North America for substantial amounts of natural gas."

    "Iraq remains a destabilizing influence to U.S. allies in the Middle East, as well as to regional and global order, and to the flow of oil to international markets from the Middle East. Saddam Hussein has also demonstrated a willingness to threaten to use the oil weapon and to use his own export program to manipulate oil markets."

    "The United States should conduct an immediate policy review towards Iraq, including military" - March 2001

    https://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&q...EdkzTeJq-hEtVQ


    US invades Iraq - March 19, 2003
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    Re: Is the world a better place without Saddam Hussein?

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    Of course it did. I'm not going to sit here and say it was all for Halliburton's benefit or anything like that, but you better believe that the safe flow of oil in the Gulf was definitely in our interests, and probably part of the decision that was made.

    Saudi and Kuwaiti oil were indeed important in the first Iraq war, but no one's oil was a motive for the second.
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    Re: Is the world a better place without Saddam Hussein?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    Saudi and Kuwaiti oil were indeed important in the first Iraq war, but no one's oil was a motive for the second.
    Could you please back that statement up?

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    Re: Is the world a better place without Saddam Hussein?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    Saudi and Kuwaiti oil were indeed important in the first Iraq war, but no one's oil was a motive for the second.
    Prior to Iraq's invasion of Kuwait, Iraq had brought charges for several years against Kuwait that it was drilling diagonally near the Iraqi border into Iraq. Not being an oilman but understanding the concept of "diagonal", I have always been curious as to why the UN unilaterally refused to look into those charges............................

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    Re: Is the world a better place without Saddam Hussein?

    Quote Originally Posted by polgara View Post
    Ah yes. May I assume a new you is to be expected any time now.... :

    What would you have done differently in Iraq, referencing our non-interference policy there?
    Here's a novel idea, why not just stay out of the country???? Why not finish the job of getting OBL "dead or alive?"

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    Re: Is the world a better place without Saddam Hussein?

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    Could you please back that statement up?

    With reference to the first war, we were forthright about the importance of oil. With reference to the second, we held absolute power for years in Iraq and conferred no contracts on U.S. companies.
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    Re: Is the world a better place without Saddam Hussein?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bonzai View Post
    Prior to Iraq's invasion of Kuwait, Iraq had brought charges for several years against Kuwait that it was drilling diagonally near the Iraqi border into Iraq. Not being an oilman but understanding the concept of "diagonal", I have always been curious as to why the UN unilaterally refused to look into those charges............................
    No idea.
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    Re: Is the world a better place without Saddam Hussein?

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    Here's a novel idea, why not just stay out of the country???? Why not finish the job of getting OBL "dead or alive?"

    The invasion of Iraq had no effect on the hunt for OBL.
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