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    Re: Is the world a better place without Saddam Hussein?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    Wilson's grandstanding irreparably distorted and damaged the discussion.

    The Butler Committee, appointed by then Prime Minister Tony Blair, concluded that the report Saddam's government was seeking uranium in Africa appeared "well-founded":

    a. It is accepted by all parties that Iraqi officials visited Niger in 1999.
    b. The British government had intelligence from several different sources indicating that this visit was for the purpose of acquiring uranium. Since uranium constitutes almost three-quarters of Niger's exports, the intelligence was credible.
    c. The evidence was not conclusive that Iraq actually purchased, as opposed to having sought, uranium, and the British government did not claim this.
    d. The forged documents were not available to the British Government at the time its assessment was made, and so the fact of the forgery does not undermine it.[31]



    All sounds completely reasonable at first glance: Then, when what occurred is reconsidered ie the collective failure of the intelligence services of the the US, the UK, and Israel, something stinks there..............

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    Re: Is the world a better place without Saddam Hussein?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    So you think Kim is the one in NK that calls the shots, and not the military?
    Do you have evidence to the contrary?

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    Re: Is the world a better place without Saddam Hussein?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Regime change is not cheap for those that payed attention to the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq.
    "They" is no longer in charge.

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    Re: Is the world a better place without Saddam Hussein?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bonzai View Post
    All sounds completely reasonable at first glance: Then, when what occurred is reconsidered ie the collective failure of the intelligence services of the the US, the UK, and Israel, something stinks there..............
    For intelligence services, the Iraq-WMD matter is a "bad news" -- "worse news" story. The bad news is that the intelligence was (mostly) wrong. The worse news is that it didn't matter. The decision to go to war in Iraq preceded the intelligence; it did not follow it. The irony in this discussion is that the British report that GWB cited in the SOTU was one of the few reports that was probably accurate.
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    Re: Is the world a better place without Saddam Hussein?

    ....soooooo...the deal is...Iraq sought uranium...but didn't not buy... or ever possess...? Thus...the relevance to the sales job to go into Iraq is? Oh yeah...oil.

    Hell, Iran blatantly gloats about having uranium. They have for a long time. North Korea...no need to say where they are. Pakistan...a time-bomb waiting to go off...with an atomic incident. Intelligence about these countries hasn't inspired the US to jump in and invade "yet".

    Iran has bunches of oil. North Korean has bunches of starving people. Pakistan has nuclear weapons, and still has a bunches of 3rd world mentality. Too bad for their neighbors. Camels carrying nukes...are hard to spot on radar.

    So it looks like "Iran" is the next in line...unless the kid who runs N. Korea finds a way to boat in a nuke and set it off on the west coast.

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    Re: Is the world a better place without Saddam Hussein?

    Quote Originally Posted by Removable Mind View Post
    ....soooooo...the deal is...Iraq sought uranium...but didn't not buy... or ever possess...? Thus...the relevance to the sales job to go into Iraq is? Oh yeah...oil.
    Oil was no part of the decision to invade Iraq.
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    Re: Is the world a better place without Saddam Hussein?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    Oil was no part of the decision to invade Iraq.
    Good luck with this. Good evening 2m. I'll just sit back and watch this one...
    I don't often change my signature, but this was just too over the top to let anyone forget with what this country is up against...
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    Re: Is the world a better place without Saddam Hussein?

    Quote Originally Posted by AlabamaPaul View Post
    Good luck with this. Good evening 2m. I'll just sit back and watch this one...
    Good evening, AP. It's actually an easy case to make. We had absolute power in Iraq for many years and awarded ourselves zero contracts.
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    Re: Is the world a better place without Saddam Hussein?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    Oil was no part of the decision to invade Iraq.
    I would dare to guess that everything would have gone differently except for the truly bizarre US Star Treklike non interference policy of the occupation of Iraq had been replaced by something a little more sensible.........................

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    Re: Is the world a better place without Saddam Hussein?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    Good evening, AP. It's actually an easy case to make. We had absolute power in Iraq for many years and awarded ourselves zero contracts.
    Yes, but good luck convincing the "believers"...
    I don't often change my signature, but this was just too over the top to let anyone forget with what this country is up against...
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