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    Re: Is the world a better place without Saddam Hussein?

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    I was in Iraq during both Desert Storm and OIF/OEF. One of the sad things is that, although he had the resources to build dozens of palaces for himself and his cronies, Saddam spent very little on rebuilding infrastructure that was damaged/destroyed during the Iran/Iraq war and Desert Storm. Much of southern Iraq looks just as it did immediately following the Iran/Iraq war. rusted out vehicles on the side of the road, rivers filled with sunken ships, bombed out villages, etc, etc, etc.
    The following includes the reasons why I believe what I stated in my post just above:

    http://www.debatepolitics.com/polls/...post1061622138

    Clearly, he was a horrible leader.

    I just happen to believe life was better (overall) for the average Iraqi (plus far less were killed, imo) from roughly '92-IF then since Iraqi Freedom.

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    Re: Is the world a better place without Saddam Hussein?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    The government we installed is just as corrupt as the last one, and the country is less stable, just ask the Iraqis.

    I guess you were surprised when the Iraqis fought our occupation for almost 10 years rather than throwing flowers at us!
    Rumsfeld and Wolfowitz were surprised. The war was supposed to have been over in less than six months with the US being greeted as liberators.
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    Re: Is the world a better place without Saddam Hussein?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    Rumsfeld and Wolfowitz were surprised. The war was supposed to have been over in less than six months with the US being greeted as liberators.
    A cake walk as they said!
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    Re: Is the world a better place without Saddam Hussein?

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    either way... it was "all about the oil"
    Exactly!


    which is irrelevent to whether or not the world is a better place without Saddam.
    Its relevant to whether Iraq is better off, or not. Last time I checked Iraq is part of the world and was most affected by our invasion, occupation, and regime change.
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    Re: Is the world a better place without Saddam Hussein?

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    every dollar spent in Iraq was a dollar wasted.

    Saddam was such a great leader that his govt spent nothing to update/upgrade their refineries. all the oil refineries in Iraq burn off tons of methane because the technology to capture it didn't exist when they were built. as a result, methane (aka natural gas) is a major IMPORT into Iraq. and yet they are burning off tons of the stuff from their outdated refineries.
    It is Iraq's property to do with as they choose. Do you think you should be able to tell your neighbors what they can do with their property?
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    Re: Is the world a better place without Saddam Hussein?

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    I was in Iraq during both Desert Storm and OIF/OEF. One of the sad things is that, although he had the resources to build dozens of palaces for himself and his cronies, Saddam spent very little on rebuilding infrastructure that was damaged/destroyed during the Iran/Iraq war and Desert Storm. Much of southern Iraq looks just as it did immediately following the Iran/Iraq war. rusted out vehicles on the side of the road, rivers filled with sunken ships, bombed out villages, etc, etc, etc.

    If the Iraqis were so grateful to the US, why did they fight our occupation for almost a decade rather than showering us with flowers?
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    Re: Is the world a better place without Saddam Hussein?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    It is Iraq's property to do with as they choose.
    so you are defending Saddam's building of palaces while the people starved? how "liberal" of you

    Do you think you should be able to tell your neighbors what they can do with their property?
    no, I'll leave that to you liberals
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    Re: Is the world a better place without Saddam Hussein?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    If the Iraqis were so grateful to the US, why did they fight our occupation for almost a decade rather than showering us with flowers?
    who said they were grateful?
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    Re: Is the world a better place without Saddam Hussein?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    If the Iraqis were so grateful to the US, why did they fight our occupation for almost a decade rather than showering us with flowers?
    That was the Islamists. Surely you know that.

    They were the ones murdering Iraqi citizens and discouraging them from voting. They'll be taking over Iraq soon too,

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    Re: Is the world a better place without Saddam Hussein?

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    That was the Islamists. Surely you know that.

    They were the ones murdering Iraqi citizens and discouraging them from voting. They'll be taking over Iraq soon too,
    Where is your link to unbiased factual proof of this?

    You say he should 'know' it? Well then I assume you think that you 'know' it.

    And for you to know it, then you must have unbiased, factual proof - otherwise you just believe it, not know it.

    Huge difference.
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