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    Re: Is the world a better place without Saddam Hussein?

    Quote Originally Posted by AllanHampton View Post
    All I can tell is what is reported. Put your question in a search engine.
    Actually, I did try that, and the answer was that between 5 and 6 million died in death camps in Europe at the hands of the Germans. Since I got the feeling you think it was due to something other than that, I was hoping to get your explanation. I didn't realize you had no explanation for their disappearance.

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    Re: Is the world a better place without Saddam Hussein?

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    Bull, I never said that. I said he was uncooperative. Please quote the post using the quote function where I said he would allow them in.
    Really, Chris. Really? Do we really need to go through this exercise again? Once already I had to drag out a link to a post to show you that you read a post wrong. But at least that was for a post I authored. Now you want to me prove what you said because even you don't know???

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post

    So I'll give you ANOTHER chance to answer the question and debate this like an adult. Do you really think that Saddam was 100% cooperative with the UN inspections at ANY time?
    In terms of letting Inspectors into Iraq? Yes. In terms of allowing them unfettered access to inspect sites? Yes. What he wasn't, was forthcoming and helpful with revealing what he had (or didn't have), which he was ordered to do by the U.N.

    But he did let the inspectors in. To claim otherwise, as you and Bush have done, is a complete lie.


    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post

    You quote ONE man who says they had access. I have MULTIPLE people saying the opposite.
    I can't help that you can't understand what I post. I already quoted one man saying they had complete and unfettered access to where ever they went, including sites which were off limits back in the 90's when U.N. inspectors were in Iraq, like presidential palaces.

    And unlike the quotes you rely on, the one I quoted was actually in Iraq and had first hand knowledge.

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    Re: Is the world a better place without Saddam Hussein?

    Quote Originally Posted by Sheik Yerbuti View Post
    Actually, I did try that, and the answer was that between 5 and 6 million died in death camps in Europe at the hands of the Germans. Since I got the feeling you think it was due to something other than that, I was hoping to get your explanation. I didn't realize you had no explanation for their disappearance.
    I am sure there are other sites that reveal other information.

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    Re: Is the world a better place without Saddam Hussein?

    Quote Originally Posted by AllanHampton View Post

    I am sure there are other sites that reveal other information.
    As I said, there are; and I found them. Since you appear to be someone with a diffrent opinion, I was hoping you would share it. It's ok that you don't want to, it's off-topic anyway.

    Carry on.

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    Re: Is the world a better place without Saddam Hussein?

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    I never agreed with invading Iraq. What I am saying is that I can understand the mindset that led to the invasion. I can completely understand why people would not trust Saddam Hussein and believe that he was a threat, not only to his own country but to the entire region.

    Also, the fact that SOME people think we went to war with Iraq strictly over oil is utterly ridiculous. We get MOST of our oil from Canada and South America.
    Trust wasn't required. If he could have done anything to us, he already would have prior to our invasion. CATO states that in a well written article.

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    Re: Is the world a better place without Saddam Hussein?

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Which means what? It's one of those vague statements that has no real meaning. I might inquire into what going to the moon might take, but I'm not going. I might have talked to any person you can think of, but that doesn't mean we had a relationship of any kind. Such vague meaningless statements did a lot of harm in this case.
    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    IMO, it was put in the SOTU to scare/shock the masses. I don't think most people would know that it would many years to develop a nuke from the uranium stage.
    It means the SOTU language was deliberately restrained so as not to go beyond the intelligence. It was the opposite of scare/shock tactics; it was conservative language.
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    Re: Is the world a better place without Saddam Hussein?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    It means the SOTU language was deliberately restrained so as not to go beyond the intelligence. It was the opposite of scare/shock tactics; it was conservative language.

    Your claim is just the opposite of reality. The reality is that those 16 words should not have been in the speech. That they were, indicates it was to scare America. In fact, they were already taken out of some earlier speeches.

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    Re: Is the world a better place without Saddam Hussein?

    Quote Originally Posted by Sheik Yerbuti View Post

    Your claim is just the opposite of reality. The reality is that those 16 words should not have been in the speech. That they were, indicates it was to scare America. In fact, they were already taken out of some earlier speeches.
    I note that you have not replied to my previous post in our dialogue. As for this one, you are wrong, again.
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    Re: Is the world a better place without Saddam Hussein?

    Quote Originally Posted by Sheik Yerbuti View Post

    Your claim is just the opposite of reality. The reality is that those 16 words should not have been in the speech. That they were, indicates it was to scare America. In fact, they were already taken out of some earlier speeches.
    Yes, it was, the Cincinnati speech to be exact.

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    Re: Is the world a better place without Saddam Hussein?

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    Yes, it was, the Cincinnati speech to be exact.
    No one wants to say anything important in Cincinnati.
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