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    Re: Is the world a better place without Saddam Hussein?

    Quote Originally Posted by Sheik Yerbuti View Post
    From YOUR link:

    "In my 27 January [2003] update to the Council, I said that it seemed from our experience that Iraq had decided in principle to provide cooperation on process, most importantly prompt access to all sites and assistance to UNMOVIC in the establishment of the necessary infrastructure. This impression remains, and we note that access to sites has so far been without problems, including those that had never been declared or inspected, as well as to Presidential sites and private residences." ~ Hans Blix

    Even in the part you quoted above ...

    "Although Iraq was cooperative on what inspectors called 'process' - allowing inspectors access to suspected weapons sites, for example"

    So to claim Hussein "wouldn't let them in," is a bald faced lie.
    Okay, if you want to continue on with this childish name-calling, I'll play along even though it's STUPID beyond belief and accomplishes ABSOLUTELY nothing.

    You're LYING now because I NEVER claimed he would not allow them access. I said he was never COMPLETELY cooperative with inspectors.

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    Re: Is the world a better place without Saddam Hussein?

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    If you don't know about German genocide against Jews, you don't know enough to speak on the subject. And yes, Dresden is worthy of condemnation. Feel free to do so. However, I would not call it worse or even as bad as much of what Germany did during WWII.
    I don't "know" about any German genocide against Jews. I've read that there are headline news paper reports that Judea, and or world Jewry, declared war on Germany in 1933.

    I hear/read about the genocide of Palestinians in Palestine by Jews, any truth to that? I have heard first hand reports about Israel's attack on the USS Liberty in 1967 murdering 34 and wounding 171 U.S. Sailors. I have heard reports that Congress has funded and armed Israel for over sixty years. Americans are paying a Rabbi fee (called Kosher tax) on their food, how can that be but by extortion?

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    Re: Is the world a better place without Saddam Hussein?

    Quote Originally Posted by AllanHampton View Post
    I don't "know" about any German genocide against Jews. I've read that there are headline news paper reports that Judea, and or world Jewry, declared war on Germany in 1933.

    I hear/read about the genocide of Palestinians in Palestine by Jews, any truth to that? I have heard first hand reports about Israel's attack on the USS Liberty in 1967 murdering 34 and wounding 171 U.S. Sailors. I have heard reports that Congress has funded and armed Israel for over sixty years. Americans are paying a Rabbi fee (called Kosher tax) on their food, how can that be but by extortion?
    It appears you do lack knowledge. Is it possible you don't want to know?

    The systematic policy of racial extermination carried out against Jews by the Nazis in Europe during World War II stands out as one of history’s most horrifying events.

    Genocide - World War 2 on History

    The murder of the European Jews in the Second World War was unique. Never before did a state decide to kill a specific group of humans -- including old people, women, and children -- without any reservation or examination of the individual case, and enact this murder with the means of State power."

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    The Nazi Genocide of the Jews, 1933-1945

    The Holocaust was the systematic, bureaucratic, state-sponsored persecution and murder of approximately six million Jews by the Nazi regime and its collaborators.

    Introduction to the Holocaust

    If you truly read as you say, this should not be hard for you to find.

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    Re: Is the world a better place without Saddam Hussein?

    Quote Originally Posted by AllanHampton View Post
    I don't "know" about any German genocide against Jews. I've read that there are headline news paper reports that Judea, and or world Jewry, declared war on Germany in 1933.
    Holy crap.

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    Re: Is the world a better place without Saddam Hussein?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    The Iraq Effect: War Has Increased Terrorism Sevenfold Worldwide

    "The president's argument conveyed two important assumptions: first, that the threat of jihadist terrorism to U.S. interests would have been greater without the war in Iraq, and second, that the war is reducing the overall global pool of terrorists. However, the White House has never cited any evidence for either of these assumptions, and none appears to be publicly available.

    The administration's own National Intelligence Estimate on "Trends in Global Terrorism: implications for the United States," circulated within the government in April 2006 and partially declassified in October, states that "the Iraq War has become the 'cause celebre' for jihadists ... and is shaping a new generation of terrorist leaders and operatives."

    "Our study shows that the Iraq War has generated a stunning sevenfold increase in the yearly rate of fatal jihadist attacks, amounting to literally hundreds of additional terrorist attacks and thousands of civilian lives lost; even when terrorism in Iraq and Afghanistan is excluded, fatal attacks in the rest of the world have increased by more than one-third."

    The Iraq Effect: War Has Increased Terrorism Sevenfold Worldwide
    Here's a link to the official declassified government document showing how terrorism has increased.


    I can't paste sections of it as it is in PDF format.

    This report reminds me of the Pentagon Papers that came to light during the Vietnam wa.. I mean conflict.
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    Re: Is the world a better place without Saddam Hussein?

    Quick side question:

    Does anyone agree with Allan that "world Jewry" declared war on Germany and Hitler was just fighting back against terrorists?

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    Re: Is the world a better place without Saddam Hussein?

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    Quick side question:

    Does anyone agree with Allan that "world Jewry" declared war on Germany and Hitler was just fighting back against terrorists?


    No!

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    Re: Is the world a better place without Saddam Hussein?

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post


    No!
    Hey, there might be someone! Let's see.

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    Re: Is the world a better place without Saddam Hussein?

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    Hey, there might be someone! Let's see.
    There's usually someone who will agree with any statement, however absurd it may be.

    and that one is way beyond the absurd end of the plausible to absurd scale.
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    Re: Is the world a better place without Saddam Hussein?

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    It appears you do lack knowledge. Is it possible you don't want to know?

    The systematic policy of racial extermination carried out against Jews by the Nazis in Europe during World War II stands out as one of history’s most horrifying events.

    Genocide - World War 2 on History

    The murder of the European Jews in the Second World War was unique. Never before did a state decide to kill a specific group of humans -- including old people, women, and children -- without any reservation or examination of the individual case, and enact this murder with the means of State power."

    -- Eberhard Jäckel, German Historian and Director of the Institute for Contemporary History, University of Stuttgart

    The Nazi Genocide of the Jews, 1933-1945

    The Holocaust was the systematic, bureaucratic, state-sponsored persecution and murder of approximately six million Jews by the Nazi regime and its collaborators.

    Introduction to the Holocaust

    If you truly read as you say, this should not be hard for you to find.
    Have you read Martin Luther's book "Jews and their lies"? Who was Christ speaking to in John; 8, 44? There are plenty of reports that there was no genocide of Jews in Germany, no gassing, no lamp shades, etc. Somebody is lying for sure.

    I hear/read between 1933 - 1939 Jews were free to leave Germany, with the aid of the German government, and take their money and possessions with them. And many Jews that remained in Germany served in government and the army.

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