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    Re: Is the world a better place without Saddam Hussein?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    Yes, mainly people in Iran. He didn't think the US would actually invade, which was an error on his part.
    You know what sucks though? If we did nothing and he DID have WMD, America would probably get blamed for that too!

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    Re: Is the world a better place without Saddam Hussein?

    Quote Originally Posted by Sheik Yerbuti View Post

    Did you not read the quote I provided by Hans Blix?

    "Since we arrived in Iraq, we have conducted more than 400 inspections covering more than 300 sites. All inspections were performed without notice, and access was almost always provided promptly. In no case have we seen convincing evidence that the Iraqi side knew in advance that the inspectors were coming." ~ Hans Blix

    Your claim is simply not true and the link you gave to correoborate your incorrect claim doesn't help buy you any credibility since it only goes up to the period in late 2002 when the U.N. inspectors went back into Iraq.

    Read Blix again ...
    "since we arrived in Iraq ..." Your article doesn't dicuss that period.

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post

    Did you read my link. It has all of the inspections listed and problems with them up until 2002. I'll say it AGAIN. Saddam played the same games that Ahmadinejad plays now with the UN inspectors. Are you trying to lead us to believe that he was compliant and cooperative with inspections?
    Holy xit!!!

    Did you not see where I pointed out the fallacy in your link being it only went up until the point when Blix and U.N. inspectors went back into Iraq in late 2002.

    How would I know that about your link unless I read it??



    And still, Bush's lie that Hussein would not let the inspector's in ... a lie you repeated here ... remains a lie.

    Despite your best efforts to distract from that comment, it still remains a lie.

    Hussein did in fact let the inspectors back into Iraq. Bush's claim that he didn't is a lie.

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    Re: Is the world a better place without Saddam Hussein?

    Quote Originally Posted by Sheik Yerbuti View Post
    To be clear, you're promoting facts that have not been established.

    At the time, Our own intelligence community found the allegation "inconclusive." Since that time, the documents which formed the opinion that there could be substance to the allegation proved to be worthless forgeries. The is the same intelligence the British claimed; which Bush spoke of in his State of the Union address.


    Which is why after the speech, Bush's security advisor took the blame for those 16 words being in the address, stating, "the high standards the president set were not met."

    That was after CIA Director Tenet took the blame, stating, "those 16 words should never have been included in the text written for the president," and, "this was a mistake."

    ... which was before Rice acknowedged the 16 words were bullxit, stating, "what we've said subsequently is, knowing what we now know, that some of the Niger documents were apparently forged, we wouldn't have put this in the President's speech -- but that's knowing what we know now."

    ... which was about the time Bush's press secretary (a tough job to be sure) also admitted the 16 words were wrong when he stated, "now, we've long acknowledged -- and this is old news, we've said this repeatedly -- that the information on yellow cake did, indeed, turn out to be incorrect."

    I find it amusing that even after Hadley, Tenet, Rice, and Fleisher all confess the 16 words were wrong, there remains to this day people committed to the insane notion that Hussein was seeking Uranium, despite the fact that to this day, there is no evidence to support that allegation.
    Your faith in their accuracy exceeds mine. I have said all I can. I await the eventual public airing of this matter with, in the words of Mark Twain, "the calm confidence of a Christian holding four aces." Be well.
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    Re: Is the world a better place without Saddam Hussein?

    Quote Originally Posted by marywollstonecraft View Post
    Perhaps you don't understand the context of my use of the word "invested".
    Better than you, I suspect.
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    Re: Is the world a better place without Saddam Hussein?

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    Saddam admitted to making it seem as if he was hiding something with the UN inspectors and the rest of the world too. He wanted people to think he had weapons.
    That is true, but it just points to the fact, that we haven't had any further physical intelligence, all we've had is speculation.

    please watch and listen to the following video:



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    Re: Is the world a better place without Saddam Hussein?

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    I don't understand what you mean by "it only goes up to 2002." Obviously, inspectors had not been there since.
    What a pity that reality doesn't conform to your hallucinations ....

    New team, technology heading to Iraq

    An advance logistical team for the U.N. Monitoring, Verification and Inspection Commission, or UNMOVIC, is scheduled to arrive Monday in Baghdad.

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    Re: Is the world a better place without Saddam Hussein?

    Happy Easter. Be well.
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    Re: Is the world a better place without Saddam Hussein?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    Yes, mainly people in Iran. He didn't think the US would actually invade, which was an error on his part.
    Errors all around then. He underestimated the stupidity of GW Bush. A lot of Americans did that too.

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    Re: Is the world a better place without Saddam Hussein?

    US General admits war was for oil and more!

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    Re: Is the world a better place without Saddam Hussein?

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    You know what sucks though? If we did nothing and he DID have WMD, America would probably get blamed for that too!
    Not really. Had Hussein really had the WMD for which Bush invaded, the U.N. would have found and destroyed them as they had done years earlier.

    It still would have saved us:

    over 35,000 American casualties

    as much as 2 trillion dollars

    the unjustifiable deaths of at least 100,000 Iraqis

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