View Poll Results: Is the media covering up the true realities of ObamaCare?

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Thread: Is media silence covering up realities about ObamaCare?

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    Re: Is media silence covering up realities about ObamaCare?

    Quote Originally Posted by phattonez View Post
    The mandates on businesses (even small businesses!) are unknown to most people.
    The claim that this law is detrimental to "small businesses" just isn't true. The mandate applies only to businesses with 50 or more full-time employees. According to the Census Bureau, there are more than 27.2 MILLION businesses operating in this country. Less than 655,000 have 50 or more employees period let alone full-time. In short, the mandate is only applicable to 2% of all businesses in the Untied States; none of which are small.

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    Re: Is media silence covering up realities about ObamaCare?

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Can you show me where Obama said there was no new taxes in Obamacare. I notice you have tried hard to not document anything you have actually said, and I suspect there is good reason for it.



    Well, no. States who opted into the program are not accepting new aplicants. Those ho had applied or lived in other states are either still covered or can be covered. Further, the program was inteded as a short term program, until Obamacare kicks in next year. High Risk Pools for Health Coverage, State and Federal (State Implementation Report)

    You might want to find some actual facts. So far yours have failed to be factual.



    No one to my knowledge has claimed that there would be universal coverage. It is a fact that for some businesses it will be cheaper to pay a fine, but for the majority of businesses it will be better to provide insurance. For those people who might lose insurance through there employer, they have options through the state to get coverage.

    So what we have is a bunch of nonfactual "facts" you claimed, with no sources, and which do not stand up to any level of scrutiny, and you are crying the media is not covering your made up bull****, despite massive coverage on Obamacare. Well done!

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    Re: Is media silence covering up realities about ObamaCare?

    Quote Originally Posted by Juiposa View Post
    Mandating the private sector with providing universal health care was moronic. The only way to have efficient universal health care is through a single payer system. But the likelyhood of that ever happening in the US is slim.
    By efficient, you mean inferior?

    Let me know if you'd rather get cancer in France or in the US.

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    Re: Is media silence covering up realities about ObamaCare?

    In addition, The administration argued it is a tax before the Supreme Court, and the Supreme Court agreed and ruled it is.


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    Re: Is media silence covering up realities about ObamaCare?

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post

    Major fail. He specified under 1/4 million. The tax you are complaining about is on profits over 1/4 million. So once again we have you making **** up and complaining the media isn't covering what you made up.
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    Re: Is media silence covering up realities about ObamaCare?

    Quote Originally Posted by Napoleon View Post
    The claim that this law is detrimental to "small businesses" just isn't true. The mandate applies only to businesses with 50 or more full-time employees. According to the Census Bureau, there are more than 27.2 MILLION businesses operating in this country. Less than 655,000 have 50 or more employees period let alone full-time. In short, the mandate is only applicable to 2% of all businesses in the Untied States; none of which are small.
    How many people work for those 2% of businesses?

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    Re: Is media silence covering up realities about ObamaCare?

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    Your "proof" isn't proof at all. Reading YOUR source, it confirms there is a 3.8% tax for home asset value at sale at certain values.
    FACT: It is a 3.8% tax - so Obama declaring there was no tax WAS A LIE. Any you are lying claiming my statement is false. Obama said there is no new tax with ObamaCare - that was a lie and it a lie for you to deny it - or accuse me of posting a lie.

    And your source claiming people are not being denied coverage for pre-existing conditions, they are just being denied coverage for pre-existing conditions until Obama works it out is absurd backward logic - no different than saying "people aren't starving to death, they are just starving to death until someone finds them food."
    FACT: The Obama Administration is now denying coverage to 100% of people applying for coverage for a pre-existing condition.
    Or are you claiming Obama is going to raise them from the dead?
    IN FACT: 100% of people with pre-existing conditions are now being denied coverage.

    It is FACT that millions of people will not be covered
    IT IS FACT that it is cheaper for employers to pay the "fine" - and it costs nothing to employers who shift to part-time employees.
    Just writing the word FACT does not make your statements truthful. I just looked up one of your "FACTS" and found this....

    The Affordable Care Act created the new Pre-Existing Condition Insurance Plan (PCIP) program to make health insurance available to Americans denied coverage by private insurance companies because of a pre-existing condition. Coverage for people living with such conditions as diabetes, asthma, cancer, and HIV/AIDS has often been priced out of the reach of most Americans who buy their own insurance, and this has resulted in a lack of coverage for millions. The temporary program covers a broad range of health benefits and is designed as a bridge for people with pre-existing conditions who cannot obtain health insurance coverage in today’s private insurance market. In 2014, all Americans – regardless of their health status – will have access to affordable coverage either through their employer or through new competitive marketplaces called Exchanges, and insurers will be prohibited from charging more or denying coverage to anyone based on the state of their health.
    In FACT over 110,000 people that were denied coverage for pre-existing conditions now have insurance thanks to the AHC act. I won't even bother to find out what other lies you have told, it is wasted time.State by State Enrollment in the Pre-Existing Condition Insurance Plan | HealthCare.gov

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    Re: Is media silence covering up realities about ObamaCare?

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    Just writing the word FACT does not make your statements truthful. I just looked up one of your "FACTS" and found this....



    In FACT over 110,000 people that were denied coverage for pre-existing conditions now have insurance thanks to the AHC act. I won't even bother to find out what other lies you have told, it is wasted time.State by State Enrollment in the Pre-Existing Condition Insurance Plan | HealthCare.gov
    Further, the program was a temporary one by design. Trying to suggest a failure when a temporary program ends is silly.
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    Re: Is media silence covering up realities about ObamaCare?

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Further, the program was a temporary one by design. Trying to suggest a failure when a temporary program ends is silly.
    It is only temporary because it will no longer be needed. In 2014 no insurance company may deny coverage for pre-existing conditions.

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    Re: Is media silence covering up realities about ObamaCare?

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    It is only temporary because it will no longer be needed. In 2014 no insurance company may deny coverage for pre-existing conditions.
    Correct. The purpose of the program was to help provide coverage before Obamacare actually took effect. Jocko's failures in this thread are almost endless.
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