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Thread: Prison visitation

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    Re: Prison visitation

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    You lose many of your constitutional rights when you go to prison. I'd be all for visitation being a privilege that's earned through good behavior -- and suspended when prisoners become problems. Trying to keep prisoners sane, safe and relatively happy should be a goal of our prison system. (Maybe "happy" isn't the right word, but making them nuts doesn't make much sense either.)
    I would agree with this and possibly add that visitation should be restricted or limited upon entry, to enforce the gravity of the circumstances, and be increased as time moves closer to release, if it assists in re-entry into society.

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    Re: Prison visitation

    By definition, prison is punishment. To be confined is to be kept from your loved ones. That is part of the punishment.

    The important thing is that the legal elements of most crimes require "Intent." Meaning that the prisoner intended to commit the crime, most of which hurt someone else.

    It's become an offensive fad recently to pretend that no one in prison is guilty of anything, pretend that they are all victims of the justice system and that we should feel sorry for their plight.
    Last edited by Ray410; 03-19-13 at 03:04 PM.

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    Re: Prison visitation

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Some Prisons even have Conjugal visits......now those should be considered a Privilege.
    Some have conjugal visits that are surprises to the prisoner involved - not sure they would be classified as a privilege either.

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    Re: Prison visitation

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    Did you read or absorb any of my post? Doesn't seem like you did.

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    Re: Prison visitation

    Visitation is Right.....which it was decided by the SCOTUS in the Case Block vs Rutherford 468 US 567, 82 L Ed 2nd 438, 104 S Ct. 3227, decided July 3rd 1984.


    Although Florida made the Right into a Privilege back in the 80s when all this came into play with the Courts All across the country. Even tho the State Florida did so the visitations are still up to prison officials. Or were.

    Anyone interested can look up the State Doc site Vugate.

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    Re: Prison visitation

    in my opinion it should be a privilege but i do agree some type of neutral access should always be available, for an example of course a lawyer can always visit, but friends and family are meaningless to me if you cant earn it.
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    Re: Prison visitation

    IMO, visitation should be a privilege... albeit one to be lost if you screw up.

    I'm not including conjugal visits.
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    Re: Prison visitation

    Would any base such visitation on the level of security of the Prison? There are Minimum Security Prisons and Farms, Mediums, and Max Joints.

    Some Minimums the inmates are not even locked up.

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    Re: Prison visitation

    Quote Originally Posted by LiberalAvenger View Post
    A court in virginia is deciding wheter it is a constitutional right to have visitation.

    Va. court: Do inmates have right to visitation? | HamptonRoads.com | PilotOnline.com
    More practically speaking, do you see prison as a method of punishment, quarantine or rehabilitation? The answer to that should simplify one's decision.

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    Re: Prison visitation

    I never thought I'd live to see the day I'd agree with you on something.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ray410 View Post
    By definition, prison is punishment. To be confined is to be kept from your loved ones. That is part of the punishment.

    The important thing is that the legal elements of most crimes require "Intent." Meaning that the prisoner intended to commit the crime, most of which hurt someone else.

    It's become an offensive fad recently to pretend that no one in prison is guilty of anything, pretend that they are all victims of the justice system and that we should feel sorry for their plight.

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