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Was Invading Iraq the Right Choice?

Was invading Iraq and going to war in Iraq, was it the right choice?


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So we are nearing the 10th anniversary of the Iraq war, and with that happening and looking back 10 years ago i have a quick question for you guys here.
With all that happened, the regime change in Iraq, all the deaths, controversery and what not; Was invading Iraq and going to war in Iraq, was it the right choice?
 
In my view we should of not invaded Iraq or went to war with Iraq.
We were told that Saddam had connections to Osama Bin Laden and Al Qaeda. That turned up to be a giant lie. We were told that he was a direct threat to us. He was not a threat to us, he never killed a single US citizen. We had contracting evidence on his WMD program. It was supposedly "a war on terror" and we "were fighting terror", but look at Iraq now (a country that before we invaded never had a single suicide bombing), now is averaging at least one terrorist attack a day.
With over 500,000 Iraqis dead (some estimates up to over a million), a estimated 4,500 Americans dead and numerous others it was not worth it. Not worth it at all. The country is still in shambles and some say still in a civil war. Its a failed state and a unstable state. The Iraq War was simply not worth it, and some say based on a lie.
 
Oil if flowing again, someone got what they wanted.
 
So we are nearing the 10th anniversary of the Iraq war, and with that happening and looking back 10 years ago i have a quick question for you guys here.
With all that happened, the regime change in Iraq, all the deaths, controversery and what not; Was invading Iraq and going to war in Iraq, was it the right choice?

This is not a yes or no answer......When we invaded Iraq everyone thought that had WMD and the Senate almost voted unanimously to approve the invasion that included a bunch of Liberals...Now people like you are playing Monday Morning QB criticizing the decision.

There have been some good things that came out of the invasion:

1. We don't have to ever worry about WMD

2. Saddam won't be killing his own people anymore

3. Saddam and his sons won't be raping and murdering teenage girls again.

4. there is a Government although a shaky one........At least we gave them a chance...What they do is up to them now.

I mourn the loss of every GI that was killed there.

I could go on and on.
 
Boy the left Monday Morning QBs are coming out of the woodwork..
 
1. We don't have to ever worry about WMD


Not that we had anything to worry about anyway.

I mourn the loss of every GI that was killed there.

Yet it doesn't anger you that they basically died for nothing... as there were no WMD's, not even a potato gun...

And don't give me this "Oh well Iraq is better off now" because that's bloody debatable.

Saddam was a bad guy, and I'm glad he met his fate but life for the average person in Iraq is pretty damn bad either way, sectarian violence has made their lives a living hell.

I knew an Iraqi girl who's dad was murdered by militants following the invasion.
 

This is not a yes or no answer......When we invaded Iraq everyone thought that had WMD

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No they didnt.
Iraq War: Who Got It Wrong, And Who Got It Right (VIDEO)

and the Senate almost voted unanimously to approve the invasion that included a bunch of Liberals...Now people like you are playing Monday Morning QB criticizing the decision.
The democratic party was split on the decision. 21 out of 50 dems voted against the resolution.

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There have been some good things that came out of the invasion:

1. We don't have to ever worry about WMD
Right cuz there were no damn WMDS!

2. Saddam won't be killing his own people anymore
We really could care less about dictators killing their own people. We were supporting him at one point when he was killing his own people and we have supported numerous other tyrants that kill their own people as well.


4. there is a Government although a shaky one........At least we gave them a chance...What they do is up to them now.
A shaky one? More like a failed state
 

This is not a yes or no answer......When we invaded Iraq everyone thought that had WMD and the Senate almost voted unanimously to approve the invasion that included a bunch of Liberals...Now people like you are playing Monday Morning QB criticizing the decision.

There have been some good things that came out of the invasion:

1. We don't have to ever worry about WMD

2. Saddam won't be killing his own people anymore

3. Saddam and his sons won't be raping and murdering teenage girls again.

4. there is a Government although a shaky one........At least we gave them a chance...What they do is up to them now.

I mourn the loss of every GI that was killed there.

I could go on and on.
You call 77 to 23 "almost unanimous"?
United States Senate
Party----------------Ayes---- Nays-------No Vote
Republican -----------48-------1------------0
Democratic-----------29------21----------- 0
Independent-----------0-------1------------0
TOTALS-----------77------23------------0
And, as it turns out, the "bunch of liberals" voted against it.
21 of 50 Democratic senators voted against the resolution: Sens. Akaka (D-HI), Bingaman (D-NM), Boxer (D-CA), Byrd (D-WV), Conrad (D-ND), Corzine (D-NJ), Dayton (D-MN), Durbin (D-IL), Feingold (D-WI), Graham (D-FL), Inouye (D-HI), Kennedy (D-MA), Leahy (D-VT), Levin (D-MI), Mikulski (D-MD), Murray (D-WA), Reed (D-RI), Sarbanes (D-MD), Stabenow (D-MI), Wellstone (D-MN), and Wyden (D-OR).
1 (2%) of 49 Republican senators voted against the resolution: Sen. Chafee (R-RI).
The only Independent senator voted against the resolution: Sen. Jeffords (I-VT)
Iraq Resolution - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
You're wrong a lot, NP.
 
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Boy the left Monday Morning QBs are coming out of the woodwork..

So Navy you think its bad to look back at history and see if we got it wrong or last? You know the old saying "Those who cannot learn from history are doomed to repeat it"? Or should we live up to the ignorant mentality of "my country right or wrong"? Oh but wait i forgot in your book its "my country right or wrong (*as long as its a republican in the oval office*)".
 
It is too early to say. Something this fundamental has to be evaluated over a generation or 2. I suspect that the end result will be positive but just not in a politically masturbatory way for either side who wants to declare it was right or wrong today. It certainly will make life a lot easier if we have to attack Iran to have Saddam out of the way. Of course once the region runs out of provable oil reserves, then it won't matter either way what happens there.
 

This is not a yes or no answer......When we invaded Iraq everyone thought that had WMD and the Senate almost voted unanimously to approve the invasion that included a bunch of Liberals...Now people like you are playing Monday Morning QB criticizing the decision.

There have been some good things that came out of the invasion:

1. We don't have to ever worry about WMD

2. Saddam won't be killing his own people anymore

3. Saddam and his sons won't be raping and murdering teenage girls again.

4. there is a Government although a shaky one........At least we gave them a chance...What they do is up to them now.

I mourn the loss of every GI that was killed there.

I could go on and on.

1: There was no solid evidence of WMDs

2 and 3: Protecting Iraqi's not worth American lives

4: Not our job to fix every government


 
The fact that the neo-cons played on public fears arising out of 911 and spun it to justify invading Iraq, a country that they had wanted to invade for decades...and started a war based on lies and deceit....how can anyone with half a brain vote yes? This one is an absolute no-brainer.
 
Not that we had anything to worry about anyway.



Yet it doesn't anger you that they basically died for nothing... as there were no WMD's, not even a potato gun...

And don't give me this "Oh well Iraq is better off now" because that's bloody debatable.

Saddam was a bad guy, and I'm glad he met his fate but life for the average person in Iraq is pretty damn bad either way, sectarian violence has made their lives a living hell.

I knew an Iraqi girl who's dad was murdered by militants following the invasion.

Like I said I am a veteran and mourn the death of every GI.......It is really bad but stack it up against Nam where we lost 58,000 men......

I rsponded in my post to your other points so I don't see a need to do that again except to say You my left wing friend are the epitome of a Monday Morning QB
 
So Navy you think its bad to look back at history and see if we got it wrong or last? You know the old saying "Those who cannot learn from history are doomed to repeat it"? Or should we live up to the ignorant mentality of "my country right or wrong"? Oh but wait i forgot in your book its "my country right or wrong (*as long as its a republican in the oval office*)".

Boy you are really into cliches today........Don't you have any thoughts of your own?

I personally think its way to early to judge the Iraq war..............Time will tell...........Since I am neither a Republican or a Democrat it does not matter who is in office.......Whether its JFK A Democrat or GWB a Republican my left wing friend whom I voted for..........I would love to se a Conservative Independeent as Prez.
 
1: There was no solid evidence of WMDs

2 and 3: Protecting Iraqi's not worth American lives

4: Not our job to fix every government






!. the best intelligence says there was....

2.3. War is hell, even you ought to know that.

4. Tell that to "Slick Willie" Clinton
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The fact that the neo-cons played on public fears arising out of 911 and spun it to justify invading Iraq, a country that they had wanted to invade for decades...and started a war based on lies and deceit....how can anyone with half a brain vote yes? This one is an absolute no-brainer.


Clinton a Neo Con???:confused:
 
The oil companies back in Iraq for the first time since 1973 believe it was the right choice.
 
False. Remember those fancy weapons inspectors? They had the best intelligence, and it was right.


That entirely fails to address my point.





Who is president does not change that fact.

1. That is so much horse****..........Saddam was paying them off........One got 100K.

2. I will draw you a picture now pay attention..........Sadly people die in war and its tragic but when you stack it up against Nam it was the safest war we have every fought...........I know your to young for it but at the height of Nam we lost more men in 1 month then we did in Iraq in 10 years.......
 
So we are nearing the 10th anniversary of the Iraq war, and with that happening and looking back 10 years ago i have a quick question for you guys here.
With all that happened, the regime change in Iraq, all the deaths, controversery and what not; Was invading Iraq and going to war in Iraq, was it the right choice?

I think that the invasion of iraq ranks up there with 9/11 as the defining foreign policy moment of my generation, it sure defined a lot of my views since. There is little doubt in my mind that this war was the greatest foreign policy mistake of modern times. It demonstrated to me that the competence and good faith of the United States government can not be trusted. The war it self cost us trillions of dollars, nearly 37,000 casualties, and the mountain of good-will we possessed after 9/11 and gained us nothing...it replaced a secular Sunni sadist with a Shia Strong-Man possessing sympathies towards Iran, shed an ocean of Iraqi blood, and may have sparked a string of revolts around the Arab world that seem to be pushing that region towards political Islam.

I think it's fair to say that the invasion went a long way in helping Al-queda achieve their goals, and subsequently render any American gains in that conflict as hollow at best.

The worst part for me though is that no one...NO ONE...who had a hand in crafting this disaster will ever be held to account, and that's depressing as ****.
 
1. That is so much horse****..........Saddam was paying them off........One got 100K.

Source?

2. I will draw you a picture now pay attention..........Sadly people die in war and its tragic but when you stack it up against Nam it was the safest war we have every fought...........I know your to young for it but at the height of Nam we lost more men in 1 month then we did in Iraq in 10 years.......

Still does not address my point. Hint: my point is that it was not worth American lives to solve their problems.
 
1: There was no solid evidence of WMDs

2 and 3: Protecting Iraqi's not worth American lives

4: Not our job to fix every government



North Korea has known WMD's, is threatening to nuke the US, and we are moving defensive missile batteries west. If those are you standards, do you fault Obama for not doing anything to North Korea?
 
Clinton a Neo Con???:confused:

Trying to rewrite history again NP? Oh...that's right...in your world 911 occured on Clinton's watch, GWB captured and killed Bin Laden and Clinton was President and in charge when we invaded Iraq. Wow......sometimes I wonder if you actually believe this stuff.
 
Boy you are really into cliches today........Don't you have any thoughts of your own?

I personally think its way to early to judge the Iraq war..............Time will tell...........Since I am neither a Republican or a Democrat it does not matter who is in office.......Whether its JFK A Democrat or GWB a Republican my left wing friend whom I voted for..........I would love to se a Conservative Independeent as Prez.

You also think that history will be kind to GWB....LOL...yeah right...like THAT is going to happen. Probably when Fred Thompson becomes President.
 
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