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Should you prove you are a citizen when register to vote?(please read before voting)

Should you prove you are a citizen when register to vote?(please read before voting)


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Re: Should you prove you are a citizen when register to vote?(please read before voti

And how in the hell do they do that? I can see the little old election clerk closely examining a passport to determine whether or not it's valid. And what does it prove? How does anybody know when somebody moves to another country and 'renounces' their citizenship? They probably don't take out ads in the newspaper when they do it, since nobody else gives a ratsass.

The Citizenship chip is the only answer, I think. It ought to satisfy even the most paranoid right winger.

If they dont officially renounce it, then the the US still considers them a citizen and they could vote. If you want to conclusively prove someone is a citizen, then yes, a passport would have to be checked for validity. The govt already has a database for this.
 
Re: Should you prove you are a citizen when register to vote?(please read before voti

Obviously...I don't see how a sound argument could be made to say you don't have to prove it.
 
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That's something that needs to change, since a DL is used as a primary means of identification.

Then what about non-citizens who drive a car? A friend of mine is from Russia, just became a citizen, but he definitely drove prior to becoming a citizen.

Perhaps you want to talk about some kind of federal "citizens ID," which may not be a bad idea. A driver's license, however, just means you can drive a car.
 
Re: Should you prove you are a citizen when register to vote?(please read before voti

I take your dodging as a sign of your recognizing your wrong.

What am I dodging? I want to know if mind being disenfranchised, since according to you it's not as important as owning a gun.
 
Re: Should you prove you are a citizen when register to vote?(please read before voti

I take your dodging as a sign of your recognizing your wrong.

BTW, I've already said in this tread that if you want to have voter ID, fine. It'll be as just as effective as most gun control laws, so if your aim is to stop fraud, you're going to be very disappointed.
 
Re: Should you prove you are a citizen when register to vote?(please read before voti

BTW, I've already said in this tread that if you want to have voter ID, fine. It'll be as just as effective as most gun control laws, so if your aim is to stop fraud, you're going to be very disappointed.

And again, voting is a privledge that has to be granted, so its much easier to deny someone because they dont meet the requirements. Which is why fraud is not widespread. On the other hand, people have a right to guns, which are common, and therefore can not easily be denied. Liberals claim voting fraud isnt a problem and gun ownership is, therefore I would say protecting voting is much more effective.
 
Re: Should you prove you are a citizen when register to vote?(please read before voti

And again, voting is a privledge that has to be granted, so its much easier to deny someone because they dont meet the requirements. Which is why fraud is not widespread. On the other hand, people have a right to guns, which are common, and therefore can not easily be denied. Liberals claim voting fraud isnt a problem and gun ownership is, therefore I would say protecting voting is much more effective.

Protecting voting is fine, but I think asking for ID would be ineffective in most cases of electoral fraud. There is such a thing as fake ID....a little coordinated effort with decent resources behind it and there you go. Now, I can think of 2 groups that have the resources and the ability to launch a coordinated effort and they also have a vested interest in the result of the election. Can you guess what those groups are called?
 
Re: Should you prove you are a citizen when register to vote?(please read before voti

Protecting voting is fine, but I think asking for ID would be ineffective in most cases of electoral fraud. There is such a thing as fake ID....a little coordinated effort with decent resources behind it and there you go. Now, I can think of 2 groups that have the resources and the ability to launch a coordinated effort and they also have a vested interest in the result of the election. Can you guess what those groups are called?

WHich is why the whole topic is about how you should prove you are a citizen. An ID is not proof.
 
Re: Should you prove you are a citizen when register to vote?(please read before voti

Then what about non-citizens who drive a car? A friend of mine is from Russia, just became a citizen, but he definitely drove prior to becoming a citizen.

Perhaps you want to talk about some kind of federal "citizens ID," which may not be a bad idea. A driver's license, however, just means you can drive a car.

That's the problem, though. It's supposed to just mean a person can operate a motor vehicle, but it's over abused as a general proof of ID. As long as it's used for that, I don't see a problem with adding a restriction code on DL's that state said operator isn't a citizen.
 
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